Unapproachable approaches?

[Rastnav]

Oh, man, That is actually quite the card for a course I've played frequently:
Lance Brown
Brian Schweberger
Barry Schultz
Nathan Queen
Casey Davis

[GripEnemy]

Originally Posted by Cgkdisc

I wasn't commenting on the specifics of these holes but in general. Best I can tell in the pictures, it looks like there are air routes to the pin.

The discussion IS about this hole. Why respond to me if you're speaking in generalities? Yes there's lanes in the Nocky picture, there's also lanes in OPs image.

Again, respect where it's due, I'm just a non PDGA member *******.

[Rastnav]

Originally Posted by GripEnemy

The discussion IS about this hole. Why respond to me if you're speaking in generalities? Yes there's lanes in the Nocky picture, there's also lanes in OPs image.

Again, respect where it's due, I'm just a non PDGA member *******.

I think there was a also side conversation going on about course design principles in general. Just sort of lost in the middle of my posts.

[Countchunkula]

The hole in question is definitely the outlier here. Look at all those deuces!

[Rastnav]

Originally Posted by Countchunkula

The hole in question is definitely the outlier here. Look at all those deuces!

Slightly misleading, though.They were playing that round from the rec tees, but the "Fore more" section of Valley Springs doesn't have rec tees. The Final Round is from the whites and isn't quite as deuce laden.

[GripEnemy]

Originally Posted by Rastnav

Slightly misleading, though.They were playing that round from the rec tees, but the "Fore more" section of Valley Springs doesn't have rec tees. The Final Round is from the whites and isn't quite as deuce laden.

His point being (I'm assuming) is zero of those five scored a deuce...while most of the rest of the card is full of twos. Proves Cgk correct and me wrong.

I stand by my statements

[TimmyGah]

Originally Posted by Rastnav

Slightly misleading, though.They were playing that round from the rec tees, but the "Fore more" section of Valley Springs doesn't have rec tees. The Final Round is from the whites and isn't quite as deuce laden.

Only 50 % with none on 22

[Rastnav]

Originally Posted by TimmyGah

Only 50 % with none on 22

Yeah, I'll stand by the idea that the lanes to the pin are tough to access as compared to the rest of the course, even from the whites.

But the lanes are there, so I just need to maneuver myself around that hole better. Unless my drive is in the right spot I just need to play for my four. Just try and get to the mouth of one of those lanes.

[TimmyGah]

Originally Posted by Rastnav

Yeah, I'll stand by the idea that the lanes to the pin are tough to access as compared to the rest of the course, even from the whites.

But the lanes are there, so I just need to maneuver myself around that hole better. Unless my drive is in the right spot I just need to play for my four. Just try and get to the mouth of one of those lanes.

Have faith in your putters

[wolfhaley]

It's hard to tell exactly from the pictures but I feel I've seen much harder holes. Those trees in the fairway have no branches until at least 30 feet up it appears. And it's a par 4 at 315 feet.