Form help. 350-400 Plateau

[RyanRehberg535]

Originally Posted by sidewinder22

Looking good, just a bit stiff/restricted in backswing and not letting the torso/shoulder swing further back.

Thanks SW. I'll work on that.

Really appreciate all the feedback you've given over the last couple of years. Do you by chance do in person lessons? My wife and I will be moving to Lynchburg, VA in February which according to Google Maps is only about 4 hours away from your course. Would love to play a round with you and get some in person feedback if you'd be up for that.

[RyanRehberg535]

Originally Posted by sidewinder22

I feel the thumb push / hammer handle more out 90 degrees to left or straight out from center chest. That pushes/swings the lower arm/disc/hammerhead targetward from the elbow with the shoulder taut/protracted/ing forward/anterior with lats engaging/stabilizing/locking upper arm almost like bench press or jab, instead of pulling/retracting shoulder/elbow behind back/posterior like row and creating slack.

Wanted to ask this question in my thread so I don't derail someone else's.

I've found that this push left of the target has significantly helped with my aim and I'm not pulling nearly as many discs to the right anymore. Only question I have is, how do you push the disc/hammer 90 degrees out to the left of target while still feeling the heavy weight of the arm/disc unit? I found that my arm loses that taught, heavy feeling of the door frame drill when I "push" 90 degrees or so out left. Arm wants to tense up and flex into the power pocket, rather than swing and guide the disc wide-narrow-wide when I push left/straight out from the center chest.

[sidewinder22]

Originally Posted by RyanRehberg535

Only question I have is, how do you push the disc/hammer 90 degrees out to the left of target while still feeling the heavy weight of the arm/disc unit? I found that my arm loses that taught, heavy feeling of the door frame drill when I "push" 90 degrees or so out left. Arm wants to tense up and flex into the power pocket, rather than swing and guide the disc wide-narrow-wide when I push left/straight out from the center chest.

Maybe need to exaggerate wide-narrow-wide like a zig zag or V feeling. Should feel like a spring coiling against the inward swing momentum to spring it outward redirection from center.

[RyanRehberg535]

Balance/footwork arent ready for the sledgehammer but 10 minutes of this has already been eye-opening.

https://youtu.be/0u8dyfDIksI

[RyanRehberg535]

https://youtu.be/urQ8IYkmAaI

Got off work too late to go toss, so an ill-fated aviar was offered as tribute to an unforgiving brick wall to bring you tonight's video.

[RyanRehberg535]

https://youtu.be/u57Lrn0ijc0

Next step: throwing the thing. This has been fun haha.

[sidewinder22]

Boom! There goes the neighborhood!

[RyanRehberg535]

Originally Posted by sidewinder22

Boom! There goes the neighborhood!

I think the Olympic Hammer has done more to help me understand the correct swing concept and leverage more than anything. Thanks for suggesting it!

[RyanRehberg535]

Another way the sledgehammer has been helpful is the feel of how the right hip never really internally rotates until it is braced and clearing out of the way. During most of my earlier attempts to let the right leg hang neutrally under the hip during the stride, I was pretty much unable to get the right hip to not internally rotate early without also correcting the balance and direction of the CoG during the stride.

It almost seems as if the early internal rotation of the right hip and the right foot jumping ahead of the stride is more of a reaction to drag or pull the CoG forward ahead of the rear foot when tipping rearward or backswinging too early. Am I correct in that understanding?

[RyanRehberg535]

https://youtu.be/3QkthX9dnRI

Hammer toss experiment has yielded satisfying results. Without really focusing on anything else, I was tossing midranges 20-30 feet further after some olympic hammer throws. Still have a lot of the same form issues but I think that the leverage you learn from doing this has wondrous effects.

https://youtu.be/4qqcqfQ51d0

Now to the throw. Feel like my biggest struggle right now is that I'm having trouble not letting the rear foot in X-step jump so far ahead of my butt. I do a lot of kick the can drills with both front and rear foot and I have a good understanding of what I'm SUPPOSED to do, but still have issues with tipping back before the left foot has landed. Any thoughts on how to fix?