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Old 10-17-2018, 09:47 PM
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What's really interesting to me is that at the 15-16 second mark it sure looks like McBeth is using his left shoulder (and fist) to drive the swing. You can see it again at 50 seconds.

https://youtu.be/RkPwHUVInes?t=14
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Old 10-17-2018, 11:13 PM
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Blake t once said for the reachback to work properly the shoulder needed to be hinged down. From a small amount of research I found a video that showed a lady using her lats and not using them while performing pull ups, and the major difference it said was her “shoulders were shrugged” when not using her lats during the pull up.

Am I on to this or sideways? This is the kind of stuff I can understand, a lot of the technique stuff is over my head.
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Old 10-18-2018, 12:48 AM
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What's really interesting to me is that at the 15-16 second mark it sure looks like McBeth is using his left shoulder (and fist) to drive the swing. You can see it again at 50 seconds.

https://youtu.be/RkPwHUVInes?t=14
I would more say to set up/position himself, then counter the hit.
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Old 10-18-2018, 01:11 AM
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Blake t once said for the reachback to work properly the shoulder needed to be hinged down. From a small amount of research I found a video that showed a lady using her lats and not using them while performing pull ups, and the major difference it said was her “shoulders were shrugged” when not using her lats during the pull up.

Am I on to this or sideways? This is the kind of stuff I can understand, a lot of the technique stuff is over my head.
Yep pretty much the same thing, many use arm muscles to do pull ups. Shrugged shoulders. It seems to me that this applies to disc golf aswell.

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Old 10-18-2018, 02:25 AM
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Some more visuals what I am doing and the caution part afterwards is how I imagine many are trying to swing.
https://youtu.be/OcFCHdQHjVU?t=279

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Old 10-18-2018, 03:42 AM
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How to do it:
Sidewinders door frame drills actually stretch your lats nicely and when you let go of the door frame that´s essentially you swinging your arm with your lats.
You can place your left hand on to your side and feel the muscle activating as you slowly swing your arm around, when doing it wrong you are most likely feeling your shoulder poking your ear.
Toss a hammer.

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Me too. I played a short wooded course yesterday and found that I had to swing incredibly slow to keep from overthrowing the holes. Moving that slow, I finally started to feel some of the things described by Beto and Blake in the old DGR threads. I think the lat tightening up triggers the final tug of the disc in the full hit.
Dingle Arm in Slow Motion Drill always pulled taut/leveraged/engaged through whole body like swinging the whole Door Frame/house slowly:
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Old 10-18-2018, 03:58 AM
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Blake t once said for the reachback to work properly the shoulder needed to be hinged down.
You can think of either the arm hinging up into the shoulder or shoulder hinging down into arm slot, or actually both. My arm/disc is always going upward in pendulum to the top of the backswing and my CoG/shoulder is always dropping into the plant/arm slot/transition.
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Old 10-18-2018, 01:01 PM
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I didnt mean that this is the big secret to great disc toss. Kinetic chain is what we obviously want but if you want an effortless swing you better get em big muscles activated. This is just one part of the chain, something that will help out when doing em drills.
Fair enough... I guess I got stuck on singling out a muscle and it triggered a reaction in me and I just had to go back and re-read what you were really trying to say.

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Blake t once said for the reachback to work properly the shoulder needed to be hinged down. From a small amount of research I found a video that showed a lady using her lats and not using them while performing pull ups, and the major difference it said was her “shoulders were shrugged” when not using her lats during the pull up.
This does tie it together for me. I have a really bad habit of shrugging my shoulder to initiate the pull through. Getting my shoulder relaxed and getting wide helps but I can really see now that firing the lats with a relaxed shoulder is a goal.

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Old 10-18-2018, 02:33 PM
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So let me just make sure I have this right. The goal is to not pull with the shoulder joint, since the shoulder joint should be loose and flowing and flowing to a point of closed positioning at the beginning of arc. Instead of using the shoulder joint as pulller, use the lat muscle as a puller?
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Your butt/weight or momentum pulls everything through the lat.

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