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Old 11-14-2018, 01:09 PM
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I'd say the Wizard is in the top ten most influential discs ever. Other putters are derived from it (I'm sure the wiz is derived from something else, everything is). You have all these really good plastic choices and the nice thing, in general, a wizard flies like a wizard. To me, the Wizard is the comfort food of disc golf. I count on them to get me close to the basket from 200 and in. They are so reliable it's almost point and shoot.
The Wizard was based off the KC Aviar

*Three Putt can fact check, but I'm pretty sure he posted something about it.
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Old 11-14-2018, 03:32 PM
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The Wizard was based off the KC Aviar

*Three Putt can fact check, but I'm pretty sure he posted something about it.
Heck, they pretty much say so right on the Gateway website.

https://www.gdstour.com/resources/di...zard-in-depth/
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Old 11-14-2018, 05:50 PM
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Heck, they pretty much say so right on the Gateway website.

https://www.gdstour.com/resources/di...zard-in-depth/
Sort of. According to that article they are similar, but with a different overall size, a different nose shape, and different flight plate thickness. That's a lot of change for a simple mold. I always viewed the Wizard as an "improved" Aviar because it's not really a direct clone.

It's like Dave Mac started with the Aviar and changed each component a little bit. Once you add up all the changes it's a significantly different disc.
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Old 11-14-2018, 05:58 PM
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Fun Fact: Back in the day before he started making discs, we called Dave McCormack "The Daviar" because he bombed big bead Aviars off the tee.

The Wizard was supposed to give you an Aviar hand feel, but with a thinner flight plate (actually a tapered flight plate that is thin in the middle and thicker at the edges, but you can read the article for that) and more mass moved out to the rim. That's why the wing is more rounded off (mass moved from the flight plate to the bottom of the wing) and why they clovered like crazy (paper-thin flight plates.)

Really, the Wizard is an Aviar with gyro.

Edit: Dave really believes that things like textured surfaces and stuff like they were doing with QuestAT with dimpled wings and such make discs fly father, so all the matte finish/less friction stuff he says in that article he really believes. I think it's something that might work in a lab, but in the real World doesn't make enough difference to bother with.

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Old 11-14-2018, 05:59 PM
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Fun Fact: Back in the day before he started making discs, we called Dave McCormack "The Daviar" because he bombed big bead Aviars off the tee.

The Wizard was supposed to give you an Aviar hand feel, but with a thinner flight plate and more mass moved out to the rim. That's why the wing is more rounded off (mass moved from the flight plate to the bottom of the wing) and why they clovered like crazy (paper-thin flight plates.)

Really, the Wizard is an Aviar with gyro.
Wizaryo?
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Old 11-14-2018, 06:07 PM
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Wizaryo?
The MVP guys spent a lot of time with Dave when they developed the Ion. He's like the Godfather of gyro.
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The MVP guys spent a lot of time with Dave when they developed the Ion. He's like the Godfather of gyro.
That's a great title.

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Old 11-14-2018, 06:12 PM
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That's a great title.

Someone Meme that. Joint sponsorship from MVP and Gateway. Never go against the family.
Nikko tried that one year...
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I hate this site. You know I haven't thrown a Wizard this year? A Scale is as close as I've been. Now I want to go throw Wizards. I ALREADY HAVE PUTTERS IN MY BAG!!!

I blame all of you...

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I hate this site. You know I haven't thrown a Wizard this year? A Scale is as close as I've been. Now I want to go throw Wizards. I ALREADY HAVE PUTTERS IN MY BAG!!!

I blame all of you...
<Insert disc here> is also great. You should try it.

Here's a link <link> to some limited candy run of them. Only 2 left.

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