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Old 03-17-2019, 05:58 PM
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I don't care much about what par should be on holes. I see the problem in the designs of multishot holes itself. Too often on these style holes a well executed drive leaves you with an easy pitch to get a birdie. Waco has some good multishot holes but all of the park style ones at Waco are too easy for these guys. Hole 15 and 16 are excellent examples. Basically 2 easy pitches to get your birdie. A 3 doesn't feel earned and a 4 feels like a loss. Chuck needs to design some more highbridge gold courses maybe?
I'll need to think about tweaking some of the Highbridge Gold holes if I get the chance or need to do so for a future NT or DGPT there due to advancements in player skill since 2007. Most holes probably still hold up for gold level players up to 1025, especially with the foliage growth that may not have been tamed in the past 12 years. But now we have to try and challenge many more super gold (black level) players above 1025 rating on more open holes.
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Old 03-17-2019, 07:51 PM
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What comes after black?
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Old 03-17-2019, 08:03 PM
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What comes after black?
I think they enter a black hole where they suck the ratings points from anyone they play against.

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Old 03-17-2019, 09:06 PM
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Makes me think about how many tournaments do and don't tweak course design year after year. I fear change.
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Old 03-17-2019, 09:18 PM
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How many courses in the world is really made for the few +1000 rated players..and how fun would a course like that be to the average golfer?
Cant really build a course for play a few days a year by the top pros, well you CAN but how would pay for it
Perhaps they could just upgrade the tee signs with am par/pro par.

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Old 03-17-2019, 10:32 PM
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I don't care much about what par should be on holes. I see the problem in the designs of multishot holes itself. Too often on these style holes a well executed drive leaves you with an easy pitch to get a birdie. Waco has some good multishot holes but all of the park style ones at Waco are too easy for these guys. Hole 15 and 16 are excellent examples. Basically 2 easy pitches to get your birdie. A 3 doesn't feel earned and a 4 feels like a loss. Chuck needs to design some more highbridge gold courses maybe?
Yeah there are a lot of par 4s on disc golf where you either birdie it with your drive or your approach, and the other doesn't matter very much. The best par 4s challenge both shots and you need to execute both to get a putt

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Old 03-18-2019, 12:35 AM
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Full scale doglegs like 17 (where players can't cheat the dog) are one of the few ways you can level the challenge to test skill among our top level players to where additional distance isn't a distinct advantage.
Unless one's name is Simon.

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Old 03-18-2019, 12:42 AM
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Old 03-18-2019, 03:22 AM
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Unless one's name is Simon.
I think Simon tried to go over everything on that hole 17 at Waco one year. . but i dont think he ever made it
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Old 03-18-2019, 04:00 AM
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If i look at those four last Par4 at Waco, iīm a 900 rated 47y noodlearm.

Hole 15: i would play this safe, throw a mid/putter 200+200+158feet. .putt par . .but i could go for a birdy
For me thats a "easy" par but a hard birdy

Hole 16: i can see myself making a birdy here, not to much danger of the tee. . i will make mostly pars but a few birdies now and then

Hole 17: i dont think i will ever birdy that hole, even pars would be rare. . most likely a 5 IF i can stay IB

Hole 18: i think i can make a Birdy here, not everytime but quite often, if i play the hole like most FPO players did a birdy looks possible


I think that hole 18 is good for MPO and to hard for FPO IF it were a par 3 . . that hole would be perfect if 50% of the field went for it and 50% played safe.
For that to happen it would probably have to be 50-100feet shorter to cross water for FPO and 50-100feet longer for MPO
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