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Old 11-05-2015, 09:50 PM
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So I'm stuck at about the 360 golf/390 max range, and I'm looking to break past that.

First throw on this is with an XT Atlas, and I'm trying to keep my chin down, so the whole thing feels wonky. About 275' and hyzery.

Second throw is a Star Starfire, and just throwing like I usually do. There was a slight tailwind, and it traveled straight and tight, with fade out to about 390-400.

I feel like I'm just not loading up all that well, and I'm sure there's plenty of footwork issues. Have at it.

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Old 11-05-2015, 10:32 PM
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you're turned back too early to get leverage from the core and brace on the hit. You drag the disc forward vs work around it. The first pump should come after you hit that initial step not during it. With such an early turn away from the target your rear foot is nearly parallel while the plant is compensating for being off balance and you step slightly open which robs power from the ground up. Lots of little things to work through in order to get from that >375 to 400'+ range.

The reach back is high to low which probably causes nose up but hard to tell from just a side view.
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Old 11-05-2015, 11:24 PM
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^ yep. Not turning inside your posture. You have everything 180 degrees from the target moving backward where the pros are 90 degrees striding and turning back later/loading internally.



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Old 11-05-2015, 11:44 PM
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So I'm actually turning my hips TOO far back? So is that to say, instead of so much hip turn, there should be a bit less hip, and a lot more shoulder? That makes sense, and would probably help with accuracy as well.

Also, I never realized it before, but I do see myself kind of going high to low. I don't get a lot of nose up, but I don't achieve much height with my drives, either, unless it's intentional.
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Yep.
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One thing that helped my distance quite a bit was trying to get my elbow forward earlier. If you pause the camera when your shoulders are facing the camera, your disc is still a good bit back- by your left arm.
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Old 11-06-2015, 01:54 AM
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Stay on your back foot's instep/toes. You're pushing off its heel with your leg pointed straight back, so there is no loading into that hip and you also can't effectively transfer weight.
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I got here too late. These guys said it all.

I will add that if you watch sw's videos - make sure you try to get up and do the motions yourself. Feeling the spots you need to get into before trying to throw is very helpful.
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Thanks for the help guys. I look forward to feeling completely awkward trying to learn this stuff. LoL.

One last question, for now...is there anything that stands out as egregiously bad, that I need to completely eliminate from my throws?
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I'll add this from my ball golf days and having some very good instructors. When looking for that wind up and tension in the back swing, the longer you hold that tension the less explosive it will be. You should be able to feel it start to build quickly and as soon as you feel it's at the maximum your body should already be in the position to unload that tension into the forward swing. This is the reason for moving around the disc (the gif of the 4 pros show them doing this) rather than turning too early and dragging the disc along at full reachback for an extra halfstep. I've been playing disc golf for 10 years and competitively for 3. It's taken me this long to realize where I was going wrong in my run up and the effects it has on the entire throw - with thanks to slow, HUB, and SW.

Also, pulling high to low, it looks like you're releasing while pulling through low. Meaning when the disc ejects your hand is still going lower. If you're not throwing straight into the ground when you do this then you can only be throwing with the nose of the disc up. This will rob every ounce of distance it can and is the main reason it's taken me this long to break 400' when I need to.
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