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I like playing alternate or extra holes during tourneys. The problem is that when baskets are set out, they are rarely level. The basket crew are usually in a big hurry and usually forget that minor detail of leveling the targets. Would it be considered legal to level a basket before you putt on it? Would it only be legal if it was on your first hole of the day? Would it be legal any time during a tourney? I try to correct slider chains that are pushed in before I try to putt, but I've never actually leveled a basket except before the round begins.
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Old 03-19-2018, 01:34 PM
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I would think that altering (leveling) the basket (other than returning chains to their proper configuration) once an event has begun would be illegal.
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I would think that altering (leveling) the basket (other than returning chains to their proper configuration) once an event has begun would be illegal.
Agreed. The rules specify that you are allowed to "restore course equipment to its proper working order" (803.01.B.3). I'm not so sure that "level" is necessarily a part of proper working order, particularly if the target was placed there without any effort made to level it. I think in that case, you have to play it as is without altering its position. Basically, you can't presume that it wasn't set up the way it is (unlevel) intentionally.
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803.01 B3 allows for equipment to be restored to proper working order. I think being level would be considered proper. I know that rule was put in the book to deal with things like chains that were tangled from previous player, branches that got in the basket during the round, tennis court doors left open or temp baskets that got tilted or fell over. The word "restored" indicates that the adjustment can take place after the round has started. If you come upon a tilted basket, you wouldn't know whether it accidentally was tilted after whoever placed it there so there shouldn't be a problem leveling it at any time.

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This isn't only a problem with temp baskets, there are plenty of baskets that have settled to one side or the other around here. You also see it on tour occasionally with permanent baskets. I know there are already enough things that TDs have to deal with but I think making sure all baskets are "properly" installed(whether temp or permanent) should be a requirement for sanctioned play... especially at big events.

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I figured that I would get two extreme answers on this scenario.

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If you come upon a tilted basket, you wouldn't know whether it accidentally was tilted after whoever placed it there so there shouldn't be a problem leveling it at any time.
My take on that would be diametrically opposite- if you don't KNOW that it wasn't that way to start with you should leave it alone. Just because it might have moved after the round began is no justification for moving it.
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I don't *know* that the basket was moved during the round, but I'm going to go ahead and wheel it 15 feet to the right because I think that's where it is supposed to be anyway. Just ignore that 15 feet to the right happens to be exactly where my last shot landed.

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Is there any standard or not markings that indicate where a temp basket is supposed to be located? If so... shouldn't that be part of the players meeting?
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Tilted baskets are that way to make putting more difficult, with which side you land on becoming even more important.
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