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Has there been any study of how far the big name players of today could throw using the exact same discs the players used in the Climo era? Thx.
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Old 04-16-2019, 02:23 PM
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When Kenny started winning world championships the driver for "big d" was the viper, by the time he finished it was tbirds and valkyries. There are tons of guys still throwing tbirds today so while there may not have been a study per se there is data out there to be collected on that at least.
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Old 04-16-2019, 02:26 PM
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Here's Paul throwing a round using nothing but old stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLiOsUkU-Vs

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Old 04-16-2019, 02:42 PM
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Here's Paul, Nate, Eagle and Eric playing with Starter Packs. I'm not sure if they are Climo era but should be close to it.


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Slightly off topic... can we stop talking about advances in disc "technology"? Injection molding was invented in 1872. The only real technology changes have been premium plastics (2000's), overmolds (2000's), wide rims (no change since 2008), bubble plastic (2012), and pockets for lights/tracking devices (2014). Most Innova pros use the Destroyer as their distance driver which came out 12 years ago when Climo was still the #1 rated player in the world.

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Old 04-16-2019, 03:10 PM
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Slightly off topic... can we stop talking about advances in disc "technology"? Injection molding was invented in 1872. The only real technology changes have been premium plastics (2000's), overmolds (2000's), wide rims (no change since 2008), bubble plastic (2012), and pockets for lights/tracking devices (2014). Most Innova pros use the Destroyer as their distance driver which came out 12 years ago when Climo was still the #1 rated player in the world.
climo even said he thought the wraith was almost "too much disc"

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I'm not sure it's relevant. We spend hours talking about distance, proper technique and what it means, but this is a game of inches. I suspect that a player who can throw his teebird on a rope will beat a player who can throw his Boss a mile, but never less than fifty feet from the basket, every day.

The KC vs PM debate is less complex than folks think, IMO. Other than the forehand, I see them matching up nicely, even with the plastic being different. Accuracy counts. The only disc I see as mattering significantly is the Thunderbird, or an equivalent. Throwing 500 feet only matters in a big fairway. Long fairways in the woods, and short fairways in the woods, take the same types of discs, today and then. So Paul maybe has an advantage on big holes (you know, the hyzer holes everyone hates) but in the woods it's skill set vs skill set.

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I get all the "skill" comments, I'm just curious about raw distance potential, then and now.

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When Kenny started winning world championships the driver for "big d" was the viper, by the time he finished it was tbirds and valkyries. There are tons of guys still throwing tbirds today so while there may not have been a study per se there is data out there to be collected on that at least.
Do you think Eagle, Simon could throw those discs today further than Climo did back then?
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I get all the "skill" comments, I'm just curious about raw distance potential, then and now.



Do you think Eagle, Simon could throw those discs today further than Climo did back then?
I don't know if every high level pro could, but Eagle and Simon, absolutely yes. They are on a different level. Climo's never showed he could throw putters anywhere near the 500' mark like Simon recently did in a tournament. He was never a real "power player" anyway. Maybe Scott Stokely in his prime would be more comparable to Simon or Eagle if he had faster discs back when he was younger.

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I get all the "skill" comments, I'm just curious about raw distance potential, then and now.



Do you think Eagle, Simon could throw those discs today further than Climo did back then?
They even throw minis further...

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