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Old 10-22-2019, 08:35 PM
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I can imagine that players have a vested interest in treating a spectator differently than a competitor. Then again, isn't it a potential advantage to treat an opponent with intimidation?
Biscoe has mentioned this previously in other threads. I believe he's said that those players are rude to people besides fellow competitors.
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Old 10-22-2019, 08:38 PM
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Why is it Mixed Pro Open and not Men's Pro Open then? This is not a sport where athletes directly compete and collide against each other. They compete against the course. The best disc golf players should compete and be paid in MPO, no matter the age or gender.
Are you stating that MPO should be Male Player Open, the way Female Player Open is for females only in Disc Golf PDGA events?
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Old 10-22-2019, 08:51 PM
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Biscoe has mentioned this previously in other threads. I believe he's said that those players are rude to people besides fellow competitors.
Please allow me to point out that the VAST majority of them are nothing but pleasant to be around. In actuality the percentage of those who are unpleasant probably mirrors the general public.
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Old 10-22-2019, 09:42 PM
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Considerably more than three women are capable of winning in the FPO ranks, I'm not sure if your comment was hyperbole or lack of knowledge.

Perhaps you could enlighten us as to your experiences with rude and intimidating players in the FPO field. The handful of top players I have met could not have been nicer.

Paige Pierce was mean to me once when I was spotting at a tournament.

There, I said it.

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Old 10-23-2019, 12:03 AM
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Both Cat and Paige is in the top 10 Cash for 2019 of all players.. .not to bad to have two women in the top 10 cash, i don΄t think that is TO common in sports

So you can make money in FPO. . the smaller fields makes it possible
Women only tournaments with significant added cash may be a factor there.
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Old 10-23-2019, 12:03 AM
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Ragna Bygde was nice to me once when I was spotting for a tournament.

So, you know, sometimes you win.
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Old 10-23-2019, 12:52 PM
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Being "Progressive and cool" should never be a factor in deciding payout scales. It should all be proportional to participation.
It's a 501c4 - whatever the members want can be a justifiable reason (within legal boundaries obviously) to decide anything.

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It has always struck me as so very hypocritical that people will insist / suggest / demand unequal pay as long as males are the ones not benefitting from these inequities.
It's hypocritical to advocate against an unequal status quo in sports that has systemically limited economic advancement of women?

Or how about you wake up and realize it's not a zero-sum game...you don't lose anything, and someone who travels in a RV for 30-40 weeks a year trying to make it as a professional athlete, with no health insurance, can make a meager $3500 more. What a petty hill you're picking to die on.

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Old 10-23-2019, 06:09 PM
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I am always amused when people think markets are pure and not manipulated
I would be interested in how the PDGA and Pro tour markets are manipulated in any way.

They seem to be set proportional to participation. Agree with other posters, that the arbitrary numbers should be done away with and mirror participation.

I believe the male players who pioneered the way for current day touring players did not receive any handouts, as many suggest the female players should be afforded.

Why not allow the current female players to pave their own way? Are you saying women are not capable of creating and sustaining a life on the tour for themselves?

Take into account that today's current tours are HUGE in comparison to the early days of the Winnie Crew' and their sorts. Somehow the men were able to scratch out a life without handouts and being overly catered to by the disc golf community. In fact, I would argue that the efforts of the first players to take a their chances on touring life got the ball rolling, in many aspects, for the current tours of today.

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Old 10-23-2019, 06:23 PM
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It's hypocritical to advocate against an unequal status quo in sports that has systemically limited economic advancement of women?
Modern day sports are simply not unequal in any way. There is no systematic limits placed on women in sports at all.

Sports, regardless of gender, are equally likely to make you a star and millionaire as they are to drop you in a heart beat if you can not compete at the expected levels of your peers.

The business of sports is blind to gender and only considers the dollar signs.

Read my earlier post about touring players - their choice, their risk, their reward or failure. No one was crying a river for the male players in the early days that had to pack up their dreams and go back to their 9-5 grind.

If you are advocating to up the finances of ALL touring Pros, I could get on board. But as soon as it is presented as women are battling some imaginary evil that is holding them back - I am out. I do not support treating women as some disabled demographic that is in need of saving at every corner of life.

Honestly, it is quite disrespectful to the women who stand on their own two feet and have carved out a good life in this sport or any other aspect of life.
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Paige Pierce was mean to me once when I was spotting at a tournament.

There, I said it.
I don't know, this would be totally out of character if true. She is as nice a person as I have encountered.
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