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Old 02-24-2021, 11:54 PM
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From the UltiWorld article: “In his first year at Discraft, McBeth easily surpassed his guaranteed salary, selling over 250,000 discs even as some of his own most popular discs, like the Hades, had yet to be released.”

That’s $5 million in revenue in one year at $20/disc. And disc sales are much higher now. So if McBeth just gets the guaranteed $1 million a year but nothing additional from disc sales anymore, this contract is a steal for Discraft.

That’s my #1 question: does the $10 million cover everything?
Yes but Paul gets to help design discs more so then what any player has ever done in the past including the Paul McBeth contract at Innova. Only other players with a similar contract a two. first is Paige Pierce who since going back to Discraft got her putter and since she was a former Discraft player before going to Dynamic Disc she liked the molds she was using, that or Corona Virus came up and messed up her plans for more molds. The other was Eric McCabe who is also a Part owner in Dynamic Discs so he can kind of do what he wants with a few disc molds designs he modified.
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Old 02-25-2021, 12:59 AM
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If that's the case though I find it a bit surprising. No one I play with seems to buy discs based on brand loyalty or the pro's name on it. I never thought that meant much to most disc golfers.
Social media has alot to do with this imop. I would guess 99% of the mindset you mention is not on this site for instance.

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how does Discraft justify this? Their reported 2020 sales were just under $4 million. That is sales, not profits.
Where did you get this information from? 4 million gross sales is very small on the grand scheme of things, business expenses, employees, sponsorship, etc. Do we have sales info for other manufactures?

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Furthermore, is he still making royalties on his discs?
Just speculation, but the contract could also have been a guaranteed 1 million a year, nothing more, nothing less, so perhaps he no longer gets royalties, allowing Discraft to benefit more when production is ramped up.

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Old 02-25-2021, 01:09 AM
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Where did you get this information from? 4 million gross sales is very small on the grand scheme of things, business expenses, employees, sponsorship, etc. Do we have sales info for other manufactures?
Dun and Bradstreet. I did not look up other manufacturers.

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Old 02-25-2021, 01:19 AM
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Dun and Bradstreet. I did not look up other manufacturers.
Discraft - 4 million a year?
https://www.dnb.com/business-directo...897c19ade.html

DynamicDiscs - 1 million a year?
https://www.dnb.com/business-directo...5f84f11ed.html

Numbers seem very low.
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Old 02-25-2021, 02:29 AM
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This sight says $19 million for Discraft https://www.zoominfo.com/c/discraft-inc/82397260

So who knows the actual amount
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Old 02-25-2021, 02:35 AM
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If you haven't done so yet, listen to McBeth's interview on Brian Earhart's podcast "The Flight Diary". Every interview Brian does is great, but Paul's is incredible. It's a two-parter and gives great insight about his history and how he became the juggernaut he is today.
Where can I find that? Can someone share a link, please.
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Old 02-25-2021, 02:39 AM
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This sight says $19 million for Discraft https://www.zoominfo.com/c/discraft-inc/82397260

So who knows the actual amount
That site says 6 million for DD, sticking with a little over 3X lower than Discraft. hmm....
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Old 02-25-2021, 03:15 AM
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i was interested then saw it was 13 min

ill take your word for it that its true

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Where can I find that? Can someone share a link, please.
Seriously, just google "flight diary paul mcbeth"
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Old 02-25-2021, 04:06 AM
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You could manufacture that Ezra kid into a far bigger start with a fraction of the money. Either way it is cool, big dollar figures only help our sport seem legit in the mainstream.
Kid has potential. But no way to guarantee he will be the second McBeth, as not all of them pan out. LMK when he is in the 1060 club. Pablo is on a level of his own, as this contract also proves.
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