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This topic primarily applies to PDGA pro events but some courses as well when making artificial hazards and OB.

I grew up playing mostly golf with disc golf being more of a hobby. In golf hazards exist where you have an option to either play it where it lies or with a shot penalty move to where it last crossed into the hazard.

OB is a shot which lands not on the golf course or property. Like someones backyard. That incurs a shot penalty and a re-tee or shot (which I actually disagree with it should be played where it went OB imo but I digress).

I think that disc golf currently has it wrong with pro course setups and the rules themselves. We have way to much OB where players are throwing it one place then playing from another. I grew up with the play it where it lies.

It doesn't make sense to me logically to throw it in the woods, take it out of the woods and place it on the fairway. What is the point of doing this? Just to add strokes to the final outcome? Because in a way they are making it easier by being able to place a shot on the fairway but adding a stroke for it.

Nor having artificial OB just behind the basket where two players throw long, one player 12 feet from the basket but 1 inch OB, next player 50 feet long and 38 feet OB. Both players place it 9 feet from the basket and tap in taking the same score. It doesn't make sense. Why are we always moving from one area and playing from another? It's gimmicky and illogical.

So what I think should be changed is that areas should be marked hazard and the player has the option to play it where it lies or move from the hazard with a one stroke penalty. Playing where it last crossed.

I understand why course TD's make areas OB that are thick as you can lose a disc easily. Hazard solves this by allowing the player an option to find it, either play it from where he found it or play where it last crossed with penalty.

Do you agree that the rules need to be modified and designers allowed better options such as a new hazard rule?
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No, I think it's just fine as it is now.

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There's already a hazard rule.

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The rules are fine. You might argue that the terminology is wrong, but every sport has some strange terminology.

Course designers and TDs have discretion to apply them, just as they have discretion to design holes; sometimes they do a poor job, and sometimes what they do just isn't to someone's taste.

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The rules are fine. You might argue that the terminology is wrong, but every sport has some strange terminology.

Course designers and TDs have discretion to apply them, just as they have discretion to design holes; sometimes they do a poor job, and sometimes what they do just isn't to someone's taste.
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806.05 Hazard

Last updated: Thursday, December 31, 2020 - 16:06
A hazard is an area designated by the Director which incurs a penalty throw.
A disc is in a hazard if its position is clearly and completed completely surrounded by the hazard., or by a combination of the Hazard and an Out-of-Bounds area.
A player whose disc is in a hazard receives one penalty throw. The lie is not relocated.
If the thrower moves the disc before a determination whether it is in a hazard has been made, the disc is considered to be in the hazard.


I would simply like to see players throw from where they landed versus the current OB rule. The hazard rule makes you throw from the lie with penalty.

Why are you penalized a throw for landing in a hazard? Isn't it bad enough you have to throw from the deep weeds or golf course sand? It is illogical.

Same thing with the OB rule, player throws it 100 feet offline then moves to the fairway to play. Does this just seem bizarre to anyone?
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You didn't read my post, I said it needs changing so we can watch players play from where they threw their shot. Why are we picking up our discs and playing from different areas so much? Play from where it lies.
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You didn't read my post, I said it needs changing so we can watch players play from where they threw their shot. Why are we picking up our discs and playing from different areas so much? Play from where it lies.
I feel like (again) we are watching totally different coverages of different sports. Do you have specific examples? I see players playing from where they crossed OB, or playing from a hazard with a one stroke penalty (sand bunkers come to mind). They aren't willy nilly moving their discs all over the course. A few courses have dumb drop zones on a hole here or there, but that's really it.

I think you're trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist. Which seems to be a theme......

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Why are we picking up our discs and playing from different areas so much? Play from where it lies.
I have a feeling this question will be asked dozens of times in this thread. All by the OP.

We're at twice, maybe 3 times already.

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I have a feeling this question will be asked dozens of times in this thread. All by the OP.

We're at twice, maybe 3 times already.
It's almost like we've played this game before....and the jokes on us cuz here we are again.....

 

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Why are we picking up our discs and playing from different areas so much? Play from where it lies.
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