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Old 11-21-2020, 12:35 AM
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Old 11-21-2020, 10:23 PM
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Personally I don’t think ‘s’ flight patterns are reliable for forehand throws (anny lines not withstanding). We have higher torque and thus need torque resistance (no/low turn) and I want a bit less fade to maintain a straight flight without dumping once it slows (since we have less spin).

I recently went through a forehand max distance exercise (for hyzer or at most flat release) and while not exhaustive have a few favs:

Shryke to around 350 but easy distance (too flippy at 400ft of power). Best beginner fh.
Ballista 400 as ‘s’ as it gets without being too flippy but I refuse to throw it in the wind. My recommendation for moderate power fhs
Ballista pro 425ish similar wind issues but can gooo
Hysteria 425ish laser straight on a smash - this is my control fh driver since I got it. Have a busted p-line for fh hyzer flips and is irreplaceable for me - found the wraith inferior
Boss 450+ Possibly best max d. Decent wind fighter.
Force 450+ Possibly best control + d. Have a z for straight d and an old domey ti that doesn’t know what wind is and huge fades right.

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Old 11-23-2020, 10:26 AM
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I can attest that the Enigma is a phenomenally feeling forehand disc.
Is the rim shape and profile of the Enigma very similar to the FD? I can barely find any photos of the Enigma from the side and underneath, but the one photo I could find, looked almost dead on like a wider rim version of an FD? If so, I'm buying like 3-5 of these in different weights! Thanks
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Old 11-23-2020, 12:22 PM
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Old 11-23-2020, 03:16 PM
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I took a very large stack of "hybrid" type drivers out to a field to find out which one I could get farthest with a flap rip. I throw FH like... 300 ft max or so just FYI, mostly I'm not driving them but rather getting out of trouble or shaping shots in the woods, just to give an idea.

The Sword for me goes farthest, followed closely by a grouping of just about everything else I tried.

With this in mind, I might recommend something you can grow into, like a mold which is available in a variety of plastics and stabilities... I recommend a nice Pro or Star Wraith around 168g, bit of a dome if you can manage.

EDIT: outside of the distance workhorse category, I like FH teebirds and FDs in the woods. Don't be afraid of trying out molds that aren't typically super flat, flatness and stiffness not required. Mortars are amazing as far as mids go, right in that goldilocks area of stability. Zones are a classic, but for me they are in a weird tweener slot where they are a little too fast and skippy for touchy upshots, but don't go far enough to drive. I prefer a premium rhyno + mortar or Caiman (easier/cheaper than a mortar, very similar) for a short FH one+two punch.

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Old 11-23-2020, 03:21 PM
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star wraith

also dome /= glide
yes it does

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Old 11-23-2020, 04:06 PM
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yes it does
Not necessarily

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Old 11-23-2020, 05:07 PM
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Not necessarily
All I'm saying is if you look at disc A. and disc B., both same mold and plastic, and disc B sits a couple mm higher on its flight plate with the same PLH, I would put my money on disc B for higher glide
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Old 11-23-2020, 05:42 PM
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yes it does
lol no

if so for you it sounds like you need to get your glideometer recalibrated

either way im sorry to hear that
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All I'm saying is if you look at disc A. and disc B., both same mold and plastic, and disc B sits a couple mm higher on its flight plate with the same PLH, I would put my money on disc B for higher glide
Often, yes. Always? nope.

My most overstable Cannon (turn/fade of -3/3 allegedly) is more 0 or +1/5 and is at best 7/10. Most domey disc you'd ever feel, the definition of pop top. My most understable Cannon that's an 8 or higher on the Sleepy scale is flat as a board. -4/2 or so I would guess? I own 30ish Cannons FWIW.

Sure you can argue I'm not getting it up to speed but that's a joke...I have an arm and I know it. Maybe Simon or PmB could somehow find the glide in that thing but unless you throw 600' or more that dome means nothing.

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