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Old 01-08-2018, 02:29 AM
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IMO the Surge is a perfect disc for anyone looking to move into high speed drivers. If you throw Orcs or Beasts well, a Surge is a natural progression.

There really isn't a shot the Surge can't be used for. Very versatile.

I agree on the Wraith mold inconsistency too. They're all over the place. Surges have far less of that and I think the ESP plastic is better than star as well.
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Old 01-08-2018, 05:30 AM
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Question, I have been throwing a z surge the whole time I have been playing. Now I used to have two but I lost one right away and I never replaced it just kept throwing the one. It's a 173 z plastic surgery. I can't get any turn on (bh) it(and it's beat to death) flicks I can get it to flex but it also seems to have lost all of it's distance potential. Didn't just get a freak ? Should I try some esp?
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Old 01-08-2018, 08:33 AM
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Crystal Z Surges are good overstable drivers., fwiw.
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Old 01-08-2018, 11:11 AM
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Question, I have been throwing a z surge the whole time I have been playing. Now I used to have two but I lost one right away and I never replaced it just kept throwing the one. It's a 173 z plastic surgery. I can't get any turn on (bh) it(and it's beat to death) flicks I can get it to flex but it also seems to have lost all of it's distance potential. Didn't just get a freak ? Should I try some esp?
Get an ESP for sure. In my experience they fly way better than Z Surges.

The only Z Surge I ever liked was one of the thumb grip ones. All the others were super flat and had no glide.

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Old 01-08-2018, 12:05 PM
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Get an ESP for sure. In my experience they fly way better than Z Surges.

The only Z Surge I ever liked was one of the thumb grip ones. All the others were super flat and had no glide.
It's super flat, which at first I liked but my grip has changed a lot in the last year so I like a disc with a little heart now, I've heard good things about the esp plastic but haven't thrown it ever. Building a new bag this season though maybe the esp surge will replace the z plastic for my drivers, most of them anyway.
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Old 01-08-2018, 12:39 PM
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Crystal Z Surges are good overstable drivers., fwiw.
I love the crystal sparkle surge. My main distance flick disc and great for winds and hyzers. Just scored six online to add to my two. That ought to last me a while 😜
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Old 01-08-2018, 05:39 PM
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The pinks I mentioned throwing before were all FAF, yet have more glide and aren't as overstable as the 6-8 Zs I've thrown. Definitely check out an ESP
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