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Old 05-21-2020, 09:04 AM
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Stock discs for me, except MJ Comets and that's more about supporting MJ than anything. Nothing wrong with stock X, Z and ESP Comets.
Same here, MJ is pretty dang generous with his time on his thread, and the comet is a great disc so I'm fine shelling out a few extra for that. The only "boutique" disc I carry is premium bangers, but I just grab a few every time they do a run and they last a long time.

The main thing I see nowadays, and it isn't necessarily a problem, just a trend that I noticed is the amount of folks that can tell you about every special run and have a bag filled with them. Then can't throw a single one worth a darn. oh well, whatever floats your boat.
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Old 05-21-2020, 09:06 AM
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I kind of feel the same for niche brands. I’ll try them, but I try to fall back on “if it’s not at DGC....”
The niche brands aren't like Luna price crazy, though.

It's the McBeth factor. I mean, who is paying that salary? We are.

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Old 05-21-2020, 09:09 AM
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The main thing I see nowadays, and it isn't necessarily a problem, just a trend that I noticed is the amount of folks that can tell you about every special run and have a bag filled with them. Then can't throw a single one worth a darn. oh well, whatever floats your boat.
Seems to be more the newer generation of disc golfer who finds their value in high dollar limited runs because they feel special'er than the other guy throwing a $7 Dx Aviar they got at Academy a few years back. Doesn't matter the Aviar guy probably is better than they are because they have that cool SexyBird they torque on every FH shot.

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Old 05-21-2020, 09:16 AM
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Do I look a guy in the eye and ask him to pay me $120 for four $7 frisbees? That's crazy.
Yep. Who am I to deny someone wasting their money by lining my pockets for discs that I no longer throw?

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Then I turnabout's around and look at the MJ Comets, and they are $25 now. $25! They are Z Comets, I already have a stack of them. When they were $20 it was *gulp* and bought them, but $25? I think I'm over my limit.
I also like supporting MJ but I don't want Z comets. I have 3 2017 tour series that sit at the bottom of my stack - I just prefer ESP for my premium midranges. I also have a stock Z from ~2009 that is still perfectly usable. $25 is going to make it harder to find a reason to buy a 2020
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Old 05-21-2020, 09:19 AM
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To me, disc golf is part sport and part hobby. The primary point is playing, whether for competition or just for fun. But there's a large part of it that's about tweaking, trying, and collecting. That can be just as enjoyable and good for the soul. I have more discs than I need, but I'll continue to try new stuff or get special editions to support players. To me it's part of the whole thing.

I felt the same way with road cycling a few years ago. I spent a lot of time honing the bike (not a weight weenie) and getting every adjustment just right. Riding was fun, but all the other stuff was just as fun to me.

Some people don't feel this way and will feel superior to others with with their stock stamps and unmodified carts/bags. That's their prerogative. To quote a great physicist "what do you care what other people think?".

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Old 05-21-2020, 09:20 AM
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Seems to be more the newer generation of disc golfer who finds their value in high dollar limited runs because they feel special'er than the other guy throwing a $7 Dx Aviar they got at Academy a few years back. Doesn't matter the Aviar guy probably is better than they are because they have that cool SexyBird they torque on every FH shot.
This definitely has something to do with it. I'll preface this by saying I'm sure I'm in the newer generation you're talking about: there's a bit of ego stroking that happens when you pull out a SexyBird you paid $60-$100 for and early release it straight into the first available tree. You're insinuating that money spent isn't a big deal and doesn't matter to you. I find that the younger the player, the more this goes on with SexyBirds, Lunas, AJ Destroyers, etc.

For me, I'm a sucker for molds I like in plastics I can't readily get my hands on. JermBirds, Spectrum D2s and PA1s, misc Innova molds in Luster plastic; they get me every time. I justify it by saying I'm supporting pros I like and I will jump on F2s when I can, but at the end of the day a swirly 2017 JermBird is not saving me strokes in comparison to the x-out Luster Thunderbird that gives me the same flight. It's just scratching that collector itch that I get on occasion.

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I have sworn off Discraft for this very reason. It's just too confusing to keep abreast of all the different runs and plastics and series etc. I like consistency and reproducibility in the discs I'm throwing so I can tell that the differences are all me and my form rather than all these other variables. I'm also scared of getting too attached to one disc and then finding it difficult to obtain while similar stock discs sit there at low prices but just 'don't feel right'. I'd also note that pros move sponsors and have a shorter time at the top than I intend to keep playing DG for so if I get tour series discs then in ten years what will I do to replace it when Coraline Sexton is choosing a slightly different blend of plastic for her version of the same mold. I'm currently looking to keep expanding my Kastaplast selection and slowly phase out my Innova discs because I sense they're less likely to keep chopping and changing their lineup and plastics. Once you have the best, what's the point in tinkering?

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Old 05-21-2020, 09:38 AM
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I also like supporting MJ but I don't want Z comets. I have 3 2017 tour series that sit at the bottom of my stack - I just prefer ESP for my premium midranges. I also have a stock Z from ~2009 that is still perfectly usable. $25 is going to make it harder to find a reason to buy a 2020
The premium plastic thing really stretches out the life of a disc for a guy like me. I play once, maybe twice a week. I bought two Z Comets at the end of 2008 when they were a Players Cup specialty run and the extras were sold on Sun King. I threw one of them for eight years. It's a little flippy now, probably from using it in that damn salt mine that had a course one too many times. The backup I bought slid out of the bag as ESP and Big Z Comets came out, but I took it out and threw it this spring. It's perfect. I could bag it right now. Realistically for the kind of player I am, I could have bought those two Comets in 2008 and been set for at least 16 years. I already have five or six perfectly good stock Z Comets as backups; I'm going to die with unthrown Z Comets.

So the Mike Jo Comet thing was always more to do with Mike Jo hanging out here and being part of this little DGCR community support thing. I really don't need the Comets. I managed to do the mental gymnastics needed to spend $20/disc. Now they are $25. I always buy two, so that's another $10. My employer just furloughed a bunch of people. Do I really spend $50 on two golf discs I don't need right now? I was ready to spend $40 and probably wouldn't think that much about $40, but $50? I don't think I can do that.

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Old 05-21-2020, 09:41 AM
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I have sworn off Discraft for this very reason.
Your whole argument is invalidated if you think Discraft is the only one doing this. (not to mention the points you make are old and worn out, every single manufacturer is guilty of all of those things)

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I could get by with mostly stock discs with a couple of exceptions. There's really nothing else that flies like an Opto-X River (I've tried FD's and they're not the same). Same goes for my GG Star Sonic. I've come to rely on those specific flights, especially in the woods, and neither one is in regular production. Thankfully I had the foresight to stock up on both.

That said, most of my bag is still swirly/burst/custom dyed discs. Most of the courses I play frequently don't have water to deal with, so I buy stuff I think looks pretty and hold onto it for years.

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