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Overstable 21 11.17%
Straight 153 81.38%
Understable 0 0%
Something else 14 7.45%
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Old 08-01-2020, 09:38 PM
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Yes, most instances where people say “more stable“ they should be saying, more over stable. This includes the well-known commentators.
I don't know so much. There are a lot of x/x/0/(0,1,2) discs that are talked about as stable. I have always felt, if I say more stable it keeps that 0 turn under more speed. Its not just overstable discs being described as stable because they are being thrown harder these are discs that are straight stable at low arm speed AND higher arm speeds.

Example is a MF teebird vs a Star Teebird both beat in just a bit. No wind same throw they fly near identical say 320' power. No turn mild forward fade. In my case the MF is more stable. With more power or into a headwind it still has zero turn and mild fade while the star turns a bit and almost no fade. I guess the argument could be the MF is overstable, but as I said on shorter flights it flys the same as the star TB.
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Old 08-01-2020, 09:53 PM
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Stable is stable. More stable doesn't exist. Just like unique means unique. More unique isn't a thing.

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Old 08-01-2020, 10:10 PM
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Then stable doesn't actually exist which is silly.
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Relative to speed... if you find that it takes a -1 to fly 0 for you, just add 1 to the common rating.

Right hand back hand
Over stable = left
Stable = straight
Under stable = right

Yes, most instances where people say “more stable“ they should be saying, more over stable. This includes the well-known commentators.

Maybe someday we will all be on the same page.
Stable as straight is too much of a broad definition, it's not accurate and dependent upon the thrower. What about understable discs? Less understable? Just say more or less stable as moving left or right on the chart. Easy. That takes the thrower out of the equation.

I like to think of stability or stableness like the charts you see on Marshallstreet.

For instance which is stable-straighter a Teebird or TL? Depends on the thrower. I can easily say the Teebird is more stable (left on the chart) to define the two discs. Where when asking which one is straighter I could get 50% answer either way. It's too broad of a definition and inaccurate.
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Then stable doesn't actually exist which is silly.
Say what now?

I don't think you understand how words work.
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Old 08-02-2020, 12:07 AM
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Say what now?

I don't think you understand how words work.
I understand words do you understand discs?

If a discs behave differently for different arm speeds/throwers then there is literally no disc that can be described as 'stable' over stable and understable to varying degrees I suppose but is anything actually stable?
you just said stable is like unique. So tell me as someone that does understand words describe to me what would be underunique and overunique be?
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Overunique is people's varying takes on this.

Underunique is the topic.

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I understand words do you understand discs?

If a discs behave differently for different arm speeds/throwers then there is literally no disc that can be described as 'stable' over stable and understable to varying degrees I suppose but is anything actually stable?
you just said stable is like unique. So tell me as someone that does understand words describe to me what would be underunique and overunique be?
Stable means stable. Your noodle arm doesn't change the definition of a word LOL.
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Old 08-02-2020, 12:17 AM
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Stable means stable. Your noodle arm doesn't change the definition of a word LOL.
We've reached the pinnacle of online debate here.

I retort with equal insult to you, good sir.
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My Ion is the more-stablist disc I have ever thrown.
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