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Old 08-05-2020, 08:30 PM
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Found it. Some good information about disc weights vs distance vs exit velocity.

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Old 08-06-2020, 08:01 AM
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Try a 155g to 165g Star Tern or MVP Neutron or Plasma Wave. The Wave is a bit more understable than the Tern but both discs will give you more distance with a little less wear and tear on your body because of the lighter weight. I throw about the same max d as you and I have other discs that I can get to fly farther but not with the consistency or control as the Tern and Wave.
I throw a 165 plasma wave as my distance driver. Absolutely bombs. My max d is over 40' longer than last year.

Nobody does light weight discs better than MVP. I have a few 150 class and they are phenomenal.

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Old 08-06-2020, 09:33 AM
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I was carrying Pro Starfires in the 170-172 range, and one day tried out a 170 DX Wraith I'd had but never used. It was passing the Starfires so I decided to try a few Pro Wraiths at 158. Instant game changer. The 158 Pro just feels so lively on throws...something I hadn't experienced with the heavier weights.

I would not hesitate to pick up a few light weight Pro Wraiths. They are wearing in pretty quick, but they seem to slow at a certain point and stay at that stability for awhile...at least until I lose them :-)

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Old 08-06-2020, 09:53 AM
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The Wraith's rim width is the Goldilocks of rims for me -- not too wide to consistently release, but wide enough to gain a bit of extra yardage. I've found a handful of discs that feel like a Wraith in the hand but are less stable and longer in my experience. A few of those have already been mentioned here. In decreasing order of stability, my recommendations are:

Trespass
Wave (especially in Plasma plastic, which give it more dome/glide)
Vanish

Regarding weight, the disc itself shouldn't be too squirrelly if you go 160g or higher. It is possible that bagging one 160g disc, and everything else near max weight, could throw off your timing. But if you don't personally have an issue with throwing a mixed weight bag, then finding something in the 160-165g range would probably work out nicely for your max distance disc.

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Old 08-06-2020, 11:23 AM
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I've found a handful of discs that feel like a Wraith in the hand but are less stable and longer in my experience. A few of those have already been mentioned here. In decreasing order of stability, my recommendations are:

Trespass
Funny you should mention the Trespass. The Trespass is my Wraith.

I’ve tried several Wraiths but just never clicked with any of them. Maybe I just never found the right one?

The Trespass for me flies like I was hoping a Wraith would.
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Old 08-06-2020, 12:01 PM
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Funny you should mention the Trespass. The Trespass is my Wraith.

I’ve tried several Wraiths but just never clicked with any of them. Maybe I just never found the right one?

The Trespass for me flies like I was hoping a Wraith would.
Trespasses are so great for sub-400' throwers. Unfortunately it was the first distance driver I tried, so naturally I moved on from it to other things in the search for more distance. I bagged Destroyers, Wraiths, Ballistas, Ballista Pros, Shrykes, Waves, CD3s, a World for a hot minute, and probably a few more that I'm forgetting. Ended up going back to Trespasses this year and have been very happy.

For my arm speed, the Trespass is a really controllable long distance disc. I can throw a max weight Lucid-X for headwinds and 0 turn/3 fade type shots; regular Lucid or Fuzion near max weight for light headwinds, or if I want just a hint of turn/consistent fade; and lightweight for max distance lines. I bag a Vanish as an understable bookend along with 2-3 Trespasses, and that is all I need for distance drivers. I'm sure when I visit family in the midwest, throwing again at lower elevation and with more wind, that I will slide a PDx back in the bag for truly OS needs. But for the courses and conditions I play here the Trespass is super good.
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So I have a similar arm to you, and decided I want to try out some lighter 11 speed stuff. I am auditioning a beat and a new 150g blizzard wraith for those times I am in a wide open field.
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High speed, low weight drivers will definitely bomb. They're fun to throw in the field to practice hyzerflips.

That said, I don't use them on the course. The lighter the disc, the less consistency you're going to get out of it. They do terribly in wind and are inaccurate.

Some models of lightweight drivers are actually beefy enough to handle big rips. Stuff like star Destroyers.

You can't go wrong bagging at least 1 high speed, low weight driver. Just don't ever use it on holes where danger lurks or accuracy is super important. If that disc can get you 40' extra over your usual driver it could end up being a good idea.

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Old 08-07-2020, 11:17 AM
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Definitely worth a look to look at higher speed discs, and even some at lower weight, but I wouldn't go lower than 150. I would only look at more stable discs for the lower weights though-- things like Wraith/Destroyer/Ballista Pro etc. If you're throwing an eagle 300-350 I don't even think you'd need to worry about an understable disc, unless you're planning on use it to bomb on wide open holes.

For what it's worth, I probably couldn't throw an Eagle 350 feet, and I found benefits to throwing 160g Goldline Ballista Pros over slower speed discs. Do not get Opto Air Ballista Pros, because they're considerably overstable-- entirely different mold. 150g class Star Destroyers or 160g class GStar Destroyers could be fun as well.

Also, GStar, especially when seasoned, tends to be a good bit less stable than Star, and GStar beats in faster than Star.
Are air Ballista Pros really a different mold? I've tried 2 so far, and haven't been that impressed with them. They're stubborn, and surprisingly hard to mash on.
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Old 08-07-2020, 11:22 AM
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BTW, if you really want to hit max distance, look for low 160s Katanas or a Daedalus. Katanas are incredibly long at lighter weight, but aren't so flippy that they won't come back late in flight.

The Daedalus is pretty underrated too. They'll smash.

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