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Old 08-14-2020, 11:39 AM
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Im surprised that nobody has mentioned how Howard Duvall gave up touring to run Innova. It seems that McBeth may be headed in a similar direction now that he has his own line of discs.
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Old 08-14-2020, 11:54 AM
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Im surprised that nobody has mentioned how Howard Duvall gave up touring to run Innova. It seems that McBeth may be headed in a similar direction now that he has his own line of discs.
* Harold Duvall. Note that the first PDGA World Championship which he won in 1982 was his first sanctioned event. Could have stopped right there but he won again in 1985 even after growing Innova with Dave Dunipace between those titles.

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Old 08-14-2020, 12:01 PM
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* Harold Duvall. Note that the first PDGA World Championship which he won in 1982 was his first sanctioned event. Could have stopped right there but he won again in 1985 even after growing Innova with Dave Dunipace between those titles.
Its amazing how much Innova has grown in Rock Hill over the years! I think they have a couple of warehouses now
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Old 08-14-2020, 12:05 PM
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Im surprised that nobody has mentioned how Howard Duvall gave up touring to run Innova. It seems that McBeth may be headed in a similar direction now that he has his own line of discs.
Because this is about who is best at disc golf not who took which route with their career.

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There have been some interesting studies about how prime athletes decline. There is often an assumption that someone is "too old" to be a top player anymore, when the reality is usually something psychological. Basically, younger players tend to have less distractions in their lives and be "hungrier" to prove themselves.

Older athletes rarely maintain the single minded focus necessary to stay on top. Sad, but humans get bored of things and want to move on. If Paul's career ends up petering out disappointingly, it might be because he's too rich and too comfortable to keep pushing like he would need to. If that happens, no question Climo will have had the more impressive career.

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Old 08-14-2020, 12:24 PM
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Climo, imo, had more motivation for a longer period because it was his summer job, and paid about as much as one. Even though he was sponsored it was hardly enough to live on much less flourish like McBeth's contract does for him.

Maybe McBeth doesn't care if at the end he's considered the GOAT, like others have said in different ways it could be he has other plans.
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Old 08-14-2020, 12:26 PM
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* Harold Duvall. Note that the first PDGA World Championship which he won in 1982 was his first sanctioned event. Could have stopped right there but he won again in 1985 even after growing Innova with Dave Dunipace between those titles.
2 of his 3 wins were World Championships. Beat that anybody....

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There have been some interesting studies about how prime athletes decline. There is often an assumption that someone is "too old" to be a top player anymore, when the reality is usually something psychological. Basically, younger players tend to have less distractions in their lives and be "hungrier" to prove themselves.

Older athletes rarely maintain the single minded focus necessary to stay on top. Sad, but humans get bored of things and want to move on. If Paul's career ends up petering out disappointingly, it might be because he's too rich and too comfortable to keep pushing like he would need to. If that happens, no question Climo will have had the more impressive career.
There is some of that but physical decline is very real.
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I don't think motivation is a problem for McBeth... if what the other guys on tour say is true. And if his little random back and forths with Climo over the GOAT issue mean anything.

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Maybe McBeth doesn't care if at the end he's considered the GOAT,
From interviews I have heard, I would say....yes he does care. And nothing wrong with that. It's up to him to convince everyone if he truly does care.
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