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Old 03-18-2014, 10:35 AM
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Default HELP ME! Need slightly longer & slightly stable control driver. Winner gets STUFF!

Currently I use ESP Stalkers and a GoldLine River for 300-330' shots with good control. I can put my mids in that range, but I prefer to throw these discs powered down. I prefer this at these distances; I don't have to put excessive power on the disc to put them in that range, powering down ---> increased accuracy.

But I'd like something a little longer, and a little more stable. Please note, a LITTLE more of both.

Criteria:
-- I don't want to move up too high in speed. Both of these are speed 7; prefer up to a 9 but would be willing to hear on anything at 10 if it fits the other criteria.

-- I prefer small rims. Both the Stalker and the River have comfortable, small rims. I prefer this again for grip and consistency. Even with my distance drivers, I prefer the smallest rims possible with the best flight characteristics to get long distance. The widest rim driver in my bag is a Tern. I'm willing to listen to all suggestions, but too big of a rim will be a quick departure from testing for this.

-- Needs to be slightly more stable than a Stalker or River, but not overly stable. My River is actually quite stable compared to other Rivers(most people don't believe me until they throw it themselves; granted it's no meathook, but it's not a heavy turnover like every other River I've tried.) The ESP Stalkers are just straight. Straight. Straight. Flip it up to flat and it never fades, even with lower power it's an easy disc to keep straight through to the end of the flight.
I'm looking for a little bit more stability, a nice fade at the end of the flight. I don't want a HUGE jump in stability though, just some higher fade. Firebirds are a no-go, that's jumping too far in stability for this(and I already use them anyway). Remember, I'm keeping the power down for accuracy's sake, so I need to keep away from highly stable discs, especially at the high-speed end.

-- I prefer Star/ESP/GL/Fuzion/etc plastic. I want to be able to purchase these recommended discs in this type of plastic without breaking the bank. For example, the ESP Stalkers have never been in production. I have plenty of backups from the team-stamps and PDGA releases, but I don't want to have to hire a private eye to find the recommended discs in said plastic. (I don't imagine this to be a problem)


I am not in line with any manufacturer. I have as mixed a bag as anyone, so I will gladly listen to any recs for any disc from any company.

Let me know what you think could fill this slot. If one of your recommendations finds a permanent place in my bag, I will send you a care package of custom decals and a custom dye. If multiple people rec that same disc, I will use a random # generator and select two winners.


Some youtube footage of the above mentioned discs.
At 17:58, throwing my GL River, keeping the nose up a tad and a little hyzer. Power down(65-75%) for control.
At 9:29, throwing the ESP Stalker, again slight nose up and hyzer with lowered power. Right on the pin at 314'.

Granted these are both intentional nose-up stall hyzers shots at low power, but at least it gives you an idea of how I throw and how they fly. Wish I had more video, but I'm usually the one behind the lens.

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Old 03-18-2014, 10:40 AM
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ESP Avenger
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Old 03-18-2014, 10:47 AM
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An MVP Volt might do the trick. After that I'd suggest maybe a Saint Pro.
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Old 03-18-2014, 10:50 AM
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Um, a Star Teebird?
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Old 03-18-2014, 10:51 AM
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Guy writes a book and still gets one disc no explanation responses.

Come on dgcr. Shape up.
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Old 03-18-2014, 10:56 AM
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Onemilemore nailed it. You want a Volt.
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Old 03-18-2014, 10:57 AM
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Guy writes a book and still gets one disc no explanation responses.

Come on dgcr. Shape up.
My explanation would just be a repeat of his criteria.

"ESP Avenger because it's a little faster and a little more overstable than a Stalker. It's readily available in a variety of plastics, including ESP."
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Old 03-18-2014, 10:58 AM
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A light Discmaina S line PD will start out maybe more stable than you are looking for, but will break in nicely. A S line TD might be right where you are looking in stability, or maybe an S line CD.

The CD and TD don't get a ton of hype but are both solid discs. The TD is rated -2,1 but doesn't turn that much at all
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Old 03-18-2014, 10:59 AM
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Discraft Tracker. You're welcome.


I have some ESPs if you're interested Bennett.


Also the Legacy Rival is really nice too.
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Old 03-18-2014, 10:59 AM
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Guy writes a book and still gets one disc no explanation responses.

Come on dgcr. Shape up.
Yeah true but...but I feel stupid explaining how a teebird flies...I'm sorry... anyway, I use these for that kinda shots: around 350', straight with fade at the end.
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