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Old 04-07-2022, 06:42 PM
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Old 04-07-2022, 06:44 PM
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Looks like Innova finally might have made a Zone copy. I love the zone but I like Innovas plastic more so heres to hoping it lives up to the numbers.
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Old 04-07-2022, 06:47 PM
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Kinda crazy that this is like their 3rd or 4th attempt at a Zone. You'd think it would be relatively easy to copy that mold but the Rat, AviarX3, and maybe others have not matched up to the Zone.

That said, I agree... Innova plastic is superior so I think it'd be neat to finally throw an Innova zone.

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Old 04-07-2022, 06:47 PM
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Looks like Innova finally might have made a Zone copy. I love the zone but I like Innovas plastic more so heres to hoping it lives up to the numbers.
The profile picture they posted looks identical to the shape of a Rat to me. I am interested to see what they changed to make this one come out more overstable.

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Old 04-07-2022, 07:04 PM
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Y’all crazy. Just throw a zone!

Specs still say deeper than a zone. “Numbers” say more OS, too. Sounds more A2 than zone.

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Old 04-07-2022, 07:38 PM
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The profile picture they posted looks identical to the shape of a Rat to me. I am interested to see what they changed to make this one come out more overstable.
PDGA specs for the approvals of each:
Toro Luster Champ plastic
Max Weight: 176.0gr
Diameter: 21.2cm
Height: 1.7cm
Rim Depth: 1.4cm
Rim Thickness: 1.3cm
Inside Rim Diameter: 18.6cm
Rim Depth / Diameter Ratio: 6.6%
Rim Configuration: 68.25
Flexibility: 7.84kg

Rat Star plastic
Max Weight: 176.0gr
Diameter: 21.2cm
Height: 1.7cm
Rim Depth: 1.4cm
Rim Thickness: 1.1cm
Inside Rim Diameter: 18.9cm
Rim Depth / Diameter Ratio: 6.6%
Rim Configuration: 66.65
Flexibility: 6.01kg

I vaguely remember Sexton saying it was going to be a 'retooled' Rat for more overstability on some coverage? Maybe LVC or Waco. Looks like just a wider rim so potentially Rat top with a different bottom this time.

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Old 04-07-2022, 08:10 PM
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That’s what was weird about the rat. It looked and felt like a zone so much but didn’t fly like one.

In reality it’s not a bad disc, pretty much like a 7/10 jawbreaker or pro d zone out of the box.

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Old 04-07-2022, 08:14 PM
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the Rat has Innova's coolest stamp, so there's that.
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Old 04-07-2022, 08:33 PM
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Calvin has thrown these in coverage and it looks overstable.
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Old 04-07-2022, 10:01 PM
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Looks like a beadless Harp to me. Probably fantastic.
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