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Overstable 16 11.11%
Straight 119 82.64%
Understable 0 0%
Something else 9 6.25%
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Old 05-14-2019, 11:45 PM
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Stable to me is a disc that is resistant to turning. Something you can throw as hard as you want and you know it will go straight. These are also the discs you want to build your bag around.
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Glad we got that settled.
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I've probably posted this in every thread where this gets debated, but I play with some guys who yell to the disc "Get stable!" when an OS disc starts to flip due to bad release. They want it to hyzer instead of flip, straight is not what they want. Odds are good they aren't the only ones.
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'More stable' should not mean OS. It should mean super straight.
Emphasis added. I fully agree with that it should, but it does not out there for the folks.
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Old 05-15-2019, 08:03 AM
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Straight but with likely a hyzer finish. I’d call a straight disc with neutral, straight finish a “neutral” disc, which isn’t same as stable (to me).
Agreed, but I would prefer you said "fade" finish. Hyzer is a shot that really turns the entire flight, not just at the end, but that's another 12 discussions. So a stable disc might be the perfect 'stall shot" disc, straight with a late fade.

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Stable discs are designed to fly straight. That is to say, the idealized flight path of a stable disc is to have very little if any high-speed turn and minimal low speed fade. Under these criteria, the “best” stable drivers are the discs that are the most high-speed stable (without being overstable at high speeds) with the least low-speed fade.

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Straight but with likely a hyzer finish. I’d call a straight disc with neutral, straight finish a “neutral” disc, which isn’t same as stable (to me).
No such thing as a hyzer finish, hyzer is a release angle and (low speed) fade is the finish to the flight. Cringe each time a pro uses it on commentary as well.

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Old 05-15-2019, 08:58 AM
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Agreed, but I would prefer you said "fade" finish. Hyzer is a shot that really turns the entire flight, not just at the end, but that's another 12 discussions. So a stable disc might be the perfect 'stall shot" disc, straight with a late fade.
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No such thing as a hyzer finish, hyzer is a release angle and (low speed) fade is the finish to the flight. Cringe each time a pro uses it on commentary as well.
Yes, fade. Thanks for the correction.
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As a member of the “old-school“ I recognize that a mixture of regional dialect and ignorance has lead many to use this word incorrectly. About half of my buddies still do. While regional lingo is unique and interesting, as the sport grows through the Internet we need to clarify the conversation and definitions are a great place to start. Yes, as said before, getting the commentators onboard would be key.

Just a few thoughts:
- Stable means that the disc will hold angle when thrown at the speed it was designed for.
- Forehand rather than Sidearm/Finger Pop.
- Overhand, then Tomahawk/Thumber can be used to describe the grip/disc orientation.
- Hyzer/Flat/Anhyzer are release angles while Fade/Turn are flight characteristics.
- Why are we still using the term “Patent Pending“? How about Reverse/Switch Stance or Goofy Foot?

Any other terms I missed?
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I tend to throw more overstable stuff because I'm a power thrower in phenomenal shape and can get an OS disc where I need it to go.

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