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Old 04-08-2013, 06:29 PM
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Can anyone compare the Tangent to an Ibex? Specifically, how well does it power down and what's the HSS and LSS like in comparison.
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Old 04-08-2013, 06:53 PM
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This is something I've been messing with a lot lately. The Tangent is a lot less HSS (more turn) and has a touch less LSS (less fade) than the Ibex. Powers down very well for me. I've got a fairly worn in Ibex that has some turn to it, but not as much, or really as controllable when powered down as my Tangent.
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Old 04-08-2013, 07:31 PM
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This is something I've been messing with a lot lately. The Tangent is a lot less HSS (more turn) and has a touch less LSS (less fade) than the Ibex. Powers down very well for me. I've got a fairly worn in Ibex that has some turn to it, but not as much, or really as controllable when powered down as my Tangent.
I find the tangent to have little turn (maybe -1 HSS at the most), unless i power it way up, then a little OAT can make it turn more and the LSS is like .5 its very neutral.

I throw alot of MVP though so my form and grip is used to the discs, and i am throwing with very low OAT.

this makes it an excellent disc for anny lines that go forever, i have not been so accurate with anny placements in all my years of discing.

I like putting it on a hyzer too it holds a hyzer line in a straighter forward pushing way, great for woody courses.
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Old 04-08-2013, 07:36 PM
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I've only thrown two medium Ibexes and one Tangent but I also found the Tangent to be less HSS and LSS. The Tangent will fly more neutral when powered down, but the Ibex will fly stable at higher speeds and has a little bit of fade you can play with. I think the two occupy different spots in the bag, but I could see a beat Ibex starting to cover a lot of the same territory as a fresh Tangent.
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Old 04-08-2013, 10:01 PM
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Can anyone compare the Tangent to an Ibex? Specifically, how well does it power down and what's the HSS and LSS like in comparison.
Very different discs for me (emphasis on the for me portion of that) I've had a variety of Ibexes, but I just took them out of the bag in favor of the more versatile Tangent. My bagged Ibex was a 176g medium, though I have used softs and firms as well. They all flew, for me, like a worn-in Z Buzzz with no glide. It definetly worked for shaping lines and for going straight, but (perhaps due to the lack of glide) to get it to work it required quite a bit of powering up for me...powering an Ibex down just made it go superstraight; to wit, it was difficult to shape lines with a powered-down Ibex. Still useful, but it just couldn't compete with the Tangent.

The Tangent (177g Stormtrooper) is more understable for me than the Ibex, but with more glide and, as I said, more versatile. Despite being US, it can handle quite a bit of power when thrown flat and still finish neutral or just slightly right when thrown RHBH. I can shape the same lines with the Tangent as I could with the Ibex (annys and big s-curves a little better) but with the added glide. It also hits and sticks, like an Ibex, which is something most MVP discs don't do. The main advantage for me is that the Tangent can be powered down much better. It will go dead straight when powered down, also like an Ibex, but I can still shape lines with it for a variety of touch shots.

However, saying all that, I would say for most players there wouldn't be a ton of overlap between the ibex and the Tangent. Theres quite enough difference that they can find plenty of room in anyone's bag...just not mine, because I got sick of carting around a "Feldberg bag"
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Old 04-09-2013, 12:03 AM
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I used the Ibex on Saturday at the Birdie Bash that AndyJB put on (great job BTW.) I'm not really a fan of Vibram's discs, but I was really impressed with how well the Ibex held a line on harder throws. It was also still easy to range when I powered it down. Won't replace a good Roc, but I may keep some around for bad weather or trips to new courses.

I was just curious if the Tangent is much different since I like MVP's plastic a lot better. I'm surprised to hear how much turn the Tangent has, sounds like it'd be better on lower-powered throws, but I typically prefer putters for stable/understable lines at shorter ranges. Not sure if I'd have a use for it or not.
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Old 04-09-2013, 01:20 AM
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I mainly use putters for approach shots as well, but for me the Tangent is still useful as a utility approach disc. It fills the gap between using a putter and a more traditional midrange.

Despite the fact that it is a very neutral disc, it handles clean power pretty well. I have a heavy Tangent that still fades off the tee if I give it some height. It's a different disc than the Ibex, but definitely worth throwing if only to try something a little different.
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I mainly use putters for approach shots as well, but for me the Tangent is still useful as a utility approach disc. It fills the gap between using a putter and a more traditional midrange.

Despite the fact that it is a very neutral disc, it handles clean power pretty well. I have a heavy Tangent that still fades off the tee if I give it some height...

Great description of the Tangent. MVP have really found a niche with this one. The temptation is to start using it more to see how far it can comfortably push into other roles. It would seem to be a great 'one disc only' choice.

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It would seem to be a great 'one disc only' choice.
That it is, my friend. Try it out and you'll love it.
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