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Old 03-06-2019, 06:40 PM
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I've been a marshal at LPGA tournaments in the past. We had a lady teeing off, then she pulled back and asked one of the other marshals to stop moving, that the change in his pocket was distracting her. After they all teed off, he pulled his pockets out to show that he had no change or keys at all. At the same time, the caddies would ask us to not stand behind the players when they were about to hit the ball, and to not move while they were swinging. I also got 'talked to' by a caddie who said they could hear people on our tee talking from the green of the prior hole. I told him I'd let everyone know to be more aware of that, and we had no more problems.

That cameraman was nothing short of a jerk in not moving to one side. Anyone with integrity would fire that cameraman, but I'm not expecting that of Steve Dodge. Remember that Dodge and Paige Pierce got into it last year when she was lining up to make the winning putt. Dodge, and now obviously his non-Jomez, non-CCDG camera crew, don't seem to give a rip about decorum nor the female players.
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Old 03-06-2019, 06:53 PM
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Dodge, and now obviously his non-Jomez, non-CCDG camera crew, don't seem to give a rip about decorum nor the female players.
The decorum point I'll grant you. But to say Dodge doesn't give a rip about women's players completely overlooks the fact that they have made a ton of effort to feature the FPO division on their media coverage.

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Old 03-06-2019, 07:01 PM
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Steve Dodge has been a major proponent to FPO coverage. Whatever other fair criticisms you may have, anyone who thinks he doesn't care about FPO is just flat out uninformed.

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Old 03-06-2019, 07:05 PM
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The decorum point I'll grant you. But to say Dodge doesn't give a rip about women's players completely overlooks the fact that they have made a ton of effort to feature the FPO division on their media coverage.
You're right about that.

He still should fire that cameraman.

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Old 03-06-2019, 07:10 PM
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I think people get way too caught up in having everything perfectly still and quiet when they putt. I will concede that if a loud gunshot went off when I was about to throw, or a crazy person was behind the basket intentionally trying to mess me up, I would probably be distracted. But if someone is talking at a normal level within earshot or someone is walking 200 feet behind the basket, get over it. If a camera man is in your line of sight but standing still filming, it shouldn't be a problem. You're a professional, you should be able to hone in on the basket and your putting routine and put it in.
I respect professionals desire to be able to concentrate and to not have some puto ruin it for them, or their fans.
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Old 03-06-2019, 07:17 PM
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Your deep insight and judgement aside. I am un-curmudgeony enough to understand that I will not always get the optimal work environment. I get that she is trying to make a living, but I would gladly change positions with her and take on her issues....kind of defines the idea of "first world problems". I think most of us would agree, she has a more enjoyable job than us. She is making a living, predominately doing what is a passion for most here.

I also understand that she gets it. Her post was pretty insightful, to the degree she accepts responsibility for her own distractions.


LOL. You got me. My response was nowhere near as deep and insightful as "First world problems."

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Old 03-06-2019, 07:37 PM
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Eh, one thing to consider here is that camera operators at our level aren't stationed in an area. I get the "suck it up and putt" argument if we were doing PGA-style broadcasts where the cameras are fixed pre-event, but that's not our reality.

The problem is, there were only a handful of cameras, so they have to constantly move. I didn't see this supposed scenario play out personally, but the respectful thing to do as a cam op is move and re-frame. It actually happens slightly more often during events than most people realize, there's just usually no drama. The player asks politely, the cam op obliges, both parties reset and everybody is OK.

Everybody who has operated in this sport has been asked to move at least once. It's not a big deal, and if both people involved are courteous to each other it's water under the bridge within the next 30 sec.

That said, if the operator was on my crew we'd have a discussion after the round if he/she had refused to move after a reasonable request by the player (note the operative word).

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Old 03-06-2019, 08:42 PM
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Wow is it really that hard to just move out of the way?

What a tool.

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Old 03-06-2019, 09:48 PM
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Wow is it really that hard to just move out of the way?

What a tool.
Yeah it’s hard to move! He had to work really hard to get a weirdly zoomed in shot that makes it hard to tell how far away the putting player is from the basket.

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Old 03-06-2019, 09:53 PM
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Can anyone provide a definition of 802.03 A 4 "The playing area is clear and free of distractions."...
Yes. Her group can.

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