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She makes it pretty clear those particular ones are slightly more stable than regular z sols and her signature sol will be made to have that stability
The SOL she throws looks close to board flat. . .looks like a ZONE, they should have called it the Anti-zone
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Old 02-18-2020, 01:20 PM
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She makes it pretty clear those particular ones are slightly more stable than regular z sols and her signature sol will be made to have that stability
How exactly does she make that point? I've watched the video twice and I don't pick up on that at all.
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Old 02-18-2020, 05:51 PM
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Any patterns emerging with SOL stability? Aside from the obvious weight and PLH, does domey = stable or what?
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Old 03-21-2020, 06:22 PM
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I've seen these (The Paige Pierce Signature Z-Sol) for sale and I've been really really really holding back from buying one, because I have a stack of AR sols that I love (even though I lost one of my babies the other day).

Has anyone thrown one who can compare it to the AR version?

I use my AR sol when I want something even more understable than my beat X-buzzz. It's perfect for slow speed turnover shots or minimalist point and shoot flick hyzerflips. That said, as it heats up, I'm more a fan of Z plastic over the floppy AR plastic that feels like ESP FLX.
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I've only can speak of the AR and FR z plastic. The ar esp imo is really understable even with low power. I bag the FR z it powers down for a nice glidey straight shot. I love jump putting with it as well. Off the tee with a full run up I have to hyzer flip it or it will turn and burn. Depending on how much power I put behind it, it either flip up to flat and stay that way or flip up to turnover. I usually just use a stand still off the tee for short shots.
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I can't think of any scenario under which I would be willing to spend an extra $5/disc to find out how the the Paige Pierce Signature Z-Sol flies compared to the normal Z Sol. If it was swirly ESP with a cool stamp or something like that to differentiate it, maybe. Unlikely, but maybe. Z to Z with an unremarkable stamp? No way.
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I can't think of any scenario under which I would be willing to spend an extra $5/disc to find out how the the Paige Pierce Signature Z-Sol flies compared to the normal Z Sol. If it was swirly ESP with a cool stamp or something like that to differentiate it, maybe. Unlikely, but maybe. Z to Z with an unremarkable stamp? No way.
Kinda agree with this, I have a few AR ones and they are considerably less stable than the Z ones, I'd consider an ESP to have something in between or to season there but no interest in spending cash on another Z.
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Old 03-27-2020, 07:49 PM
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I can't think of any scenario under which I would be willing to spend an extra $5/disc to find out how the the Paige Pierce Signature Z-Sol flies compared to the normal Z Sol. If it was swirly ESP with a cool stamp or something like that to differentiate it, maybe. Unlikely, but maybe. Z to Z with an unremarkable stamp? No way.
I guess I was basing it off of what was speculated on page 10 of this thread.
That and the first run z-sols that I saw were kind of gummy, so I was thinking perhaps these were more like the rock-hard z that's used elsewhere. Every z-buzzz or z-comet I've had was pretty inflexible. The first run z-sol was nowhere near as flexible as the AR sol, but still not like regular z. That's why I was interested in this version, because I agree, the PP stamp isn't very exciting.
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I guess I was basing it off of what was speculated on page 10 of this thread.
That and the first run z-sols that I saw were kind of gummy, so I was thinking perhaps these were more like the rock-hard z that's used elsewhere. Every z-buzzz or z-comet I've had was pretty inflexible. The first run z-sol was nowhere near as flexible as the AR sol, but still not like regular z. That's why I was interested in this version, because I agree, the PP stamp isn't very exciting.
I guess I've never really found Z to be rock-hard. It's alway got some flex to in IMO; the first run Sol seemed well within the regular variance of what I expect Z to be.

One reason you should track down a first run Z Sol: You remember the old record top Innova had where you could run your finger over the top of the disc and it sounded like scratching a record? People also called it the zipper top. It was actually more than one top; it would happen with Champ plastic on newly tooled pieces. The heat from the plastic wears away the imperfections of the mold over time, but when the part is new the grooves from producing the piece are still there and Champ/Z is such a dense plastic that it packs out the mold and the discs that come out have those little groves like a record, only very shallow so they are barely noticeable. They make a sound when you run your finger across them, though. The Z Sol doesn't have those on top of the disc like the record top, but they are on the underside of the flight plate. The core piece must be new and it's leaving those shallow groves in the Z plastic; it makes that "zip-zip" sound when you run your fingers across the bottom of the disc.

Possibly the worst selling point for a run of golf discs, but Hey! . The Ace Race ones do this as well, the Z's are just a little louder.

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