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| View Poll Results: Which of these best describes Hole 18 at the Utah Open? | |||
| A par 2 where 38% of throws are errors, and 1% of throws are hero throws. |
   
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6 | 25.00% |
| A par 3 where 24% of throws are errors, and 33% of throws are hero throws. |
  
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16 | 66.67% |
| A par 4 where 16% of throws are hero throws, and 23% are double heroes. |
  
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1 | 4.17% |
| A par 5 where 37% of throws are hero throws, and 21% are double heroes. |
  
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0 | 0% |
| A par 6 where 16% of throws are hero throws, and 62% are double heroes. |
  
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1 | 4.17% |
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#3971
11-04-2019, 10:31 AM
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Oops, 20 holes.
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#3972
11-04-2019, 11:32 PM
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2019 14th Annual Phoenix Ladies Open
Nice to see the FPO and FP40 field get to tear up a course and have some par 2s. Of course, as we all know the longest hole (no matter how easy) MUST be called a par 4, right?
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#3973
11-05-2019, 01:44 PM
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Great thread. Really takes pedantry to levels I didn't know existed.
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#3974
11-12-2019, 12:55 PM
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I'd like everyone's feedback on the pros and cons of generating a message like: "For 2019 15th Annual Pumpkin Shootout sponsored by Sunday Crew and Driven by Innova/Mesker Woods/Meadows Long Tees; 5892 Feet: Consider reducing par for #2 #7 #9 #14 #17. " which would go into the tournament feedback.
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#3975
11-12-2019, 03:15 PM
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Could it be solved with a distance metric? A 5892 foot 18 hole par 54 course is 327 feet per hole, 109 feet per stroke. If we used 80 feet per stroke that would make it a par 73 averaging 4 strokes a hole. The distance per stroke could be played with but you would at least have a system that would assign the total par for courses.
Last edited by Whiskey_Jim; 11-12-2019 at 03:18 PM.
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#3976
11-12-2019, 04:18 PM
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But, let's say it could. What would be the pros and cons of actually telling TDs after the fact what the pars should have been?
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#3977
11-12-2019, 05:12 PM
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It would just be a metric for moving forward with some semblance of standardization.
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#3978
11-12-2019, 05:26 PM
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The PDGA already has distance based metrics in their design recommendations. These for the most part yield similar results to Steve's.
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#3979
11-21-2019, 04:44 PM
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Now that the season is kind of over, I gathered info on all the Open rounds at A-tiers and above (plus Euro Tour) from 11/1/18 to 10/31/19.
No matter what method is applied, if the TD is setting par for 1000-rated players, the round rating will almost always come out to be somewhere between 990 to 1030. So, if a round rating comes out less than 990, it is a very good bet that the TD did not set par for 1000-rated players. About one out of seven rounds played by Open players in A-tiers and above are using par set for 1000-rated players.
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#3980
11-21-2019, 06:02 PM
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Might a lower rating also indicate that most holes yielded more birdies than bogeys, even if par were set correctly?
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