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Old 06-27-2019, 07:10 AM
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In just 2 pages you've called Eagle dumb, his DNF not injury related, a certified specialist a Bro, what else. I guess DGCR can be a bit harsh, huh.
Since I'm the one who called him dumb, I'll respond to this. "Young and dumb" is more of an expression. I didn't actually mean that he's not intelligent. We just have much more of a tendency to make poor (that is, dumb) decisions when we're young adults. And I'm saying this as a pretty big Eagle fan who wants to see him stay strong so he can keep crushing out there.
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Old 06-27-2019, 08:41 AM
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Since I'm the one who called him dumb, I'll respond to this. "Young and dumb" is more of an expression. I didn't actually mean that he's not intelligent. We just have much more of a tendency to make poor (that is, dumb) decisions when we're young adults. And I'm saying this as a pretty big Eagle fan who wants to see him stay strong so he can keep crushing out there.
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In the mean while, you can watch Eagle live here:



Although it may a bit inopportune time in your time zone. Welcome to what we deal with almost all season.

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Old 06-27-2019, 08:57 AM
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Although it may a bit inopportune time in your time zone. Welcome to what we deal with almost all season.
Yea, unfortunately, I won't be able to catch Tyyni live. Will there be post-production coverage?
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Old 06-27-2019, 10:38 AM
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Word has it that "the Norwegians" are doing it. So SM Productions likely?
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Old 06-27-2019, 06:35 PM
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So shoulder impingement has a concrete definition describing a certain motion, but it’s also a “garbage can term” for general shoulder soreness?

Nate Sexton had a shoulder injury/soreness earlier this year that he also called an impingement, so it would seem your narrow definition of a “garbage can term” misses the point: they had or have general shoulder soreness from repetitive, high-stress motions related to forehand disc golf throws. If it should or shouldn’t be called an impingement is for you and Seth from DGS to argue, I guess.

Some slo-mos of their forehand form to watch their shoulder rotation would be neat.


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"Shoulder Impingement Syndrome" is a garbage can term in a few ways. First, Where is the impingement, and what is causing the biomechanical abnormality in the patient? Second, general practitioners and personal trainers tend to call any shoulder pain "shoulder impingment syndrome" because it sounds fancy and gives an answer to the patient. In reality a muscle strain, or partial RTC tear is more likely (yes, RTC tears can come from repeated impingement).

"Typical" presentation of shoulder impingement results from the supraspinatus tendon (one of the rotator cuff muscles) getting "pinched" via the greater tubercle of the humerus pushing up into the acromion process (feel the bump on top of your shoulder where the seam of your shirt is). The only way this occurs is if you lift your arm up over your head repeatedly, or if you internally rotate your glenohumeral joint to near endrange (think upright row position). Maybe if he is rolling his wrist at the very end of a forehand he MIGHT be pinching the supraspinatus tendon, but I doubt it. More than likely, if he does have true mechanical pain, it results from something else.

I hope he is seeing someone more trained in the medical field than a CSCS specialist, as it is out of a personal trainers scope of practice to deal with injuries.

This is coming off stronger than anticipated, but in reality it is a detriment to patients when someone who isn't trained medically at at least the athletic trainer level try to explain injuries to patients. Maybe it is shoulder impingement, but it would take an ortho or a physical therapist examination to tell him that.

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"Shoulder Impingement Syndrome" is a garbage can term in a few ways. First, Where is the impingement, and what is causing the biomechanical abnormality in the patient? Second, general practitioners and personal trainers tend to call any shoulder pain "shoulder impingment syndrome" because it sounds fancy and gives an answer to the patient. In reality a muscle strain, or partial RTC tear is more likely (yes, RTC tears can come from repeated impingement).

"Typical" presentation of shoulder impingement results from the supraspinatus tendon (one of the rotator cuff muscles) getting "pinched" via the greater tubercle of the humerus pushing up into the acromion process (feel the bump on top of your shoulder where the seam of your shirt is). The only way this occurs is if you lift your arm up over your head repeatedly, or if you internally rotate your glenohumeral joint to near endrange (think upright row position). Maybe if he is rolling his wrist at the very end of a forehand he MIGHT be pinching the supraspinatus tendon, but I doubt it. More than likely, if he does have true mechanical pain, it results from something else.

I hope he is seeing someone more trained in the medical field than a CSCS specialist, as it is out of a personal trainers scope of practice to deal with injuries.

This is coming off stronger than anticipated, but in reality it is a detriment to patients when someone who isn't trained medically at at least the athletic trainer level try to explain injuries to patients. Maybe it is shoulder impingement, but it would take an ortho or a physical therapist examination to tell him that.
This didn't come across strong at all, you stated very eloquently what others of us were trying to say in layman's terms. I think most of us here are big fans of Eagle.

Totally unrelated, this story is pretty cool. We saw this guy on Sunday on hole one as the lead card players we're getting their intro videos taken by jomez. We thought he might be Kevin Jones grandfather because when Kevin walked up so jomez could film him, this guy followed him taking pictures with his smartphone! I'm always impressed when 91 year olds know how to use a smartphone!

https://www.lelphotography.com/blog/...stole-my-heart

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Old 06-28-2019, 01:35 AM
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"Shoulder Impingement Syndrome" is a garbage can term in a few ways...
Thanks for sharing your (obvious) knowledge.

I came to this thread to hopefully talk trash on the course and ridicule the TD for his religious views, and get roped into diagnosing an injury based on nothing but a withdrawal from the tournament and an interview. Oh well.

At the end of the day, DGS may be using jargon that doesn’t actually apply in order to sound more professional, and we all hope Eagle doesn’t have a serious injury and sees an MD if he does...

As I noted in another post, DGS does list a Dr on their team, so hopefully he is pulled into the conversations between player and trainer, and not just listed on the site for show.



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