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Old 06-18-2019, 09:58 AM
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My pet peeve is events that rob the bottom players to boost the top payout.
That was (and still is) my pet peeve with chess tournaments. And I did not run my tournaments that way. But some did, and argued vehemently for that system. I suppose it comes down to what the organizer (TD in Disc Golf parlance) is trying to do...
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Old 06-18-2019, 10:10 AM
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Lol gimmicky course? It's disc golf...we throw frisbees at metal grills. Come on people.

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Old 06-18-2019, 10:34 AM
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My pet peeve is events that rob the bottom players to boost the top payout.
And Im the opposite. My pet peeve is that payouts are so deep. If I dont finish near the top then I dont deserve to get paid out. Give the money to the people who played the best not to the mediocre field. I wish that the pdga didnt have payout table we had to follow. I know you can unsanction and do whatever but this is just my ideal world.

Im probably in the minority with this thinking but everyone is different

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Old 06-18-2019, 10:40 AM
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And Im the opposite. My pet peeve is that payouts are so deep. If I dont finish near the top then I dont deserve to get paid out. Give the money to the people who played the best not to the mediocre field. I wish that the pdga didnt have payout table we had to follow. I know you can unsanction and do whatever but this is just my ideal world.

Im probably in the minority with this thinking but everyone is different
I've always thought this post from the DGPT explaining why deep payouts matter for a sustainable tour makes a lot of sense.

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I've always thought this post from the DGPT explaining why deep payouts matter for a sustainable tour makes a lot of sense.
Ohh it does. It makes a lot of sense. I just think most of the touring pros are slightly delusional in thinking that they can actually make a living off of disc golf. Deeper payouts will keep some of the pros out on tour longer but I feel like its only a matter of time til they realize its just not cutting it.
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Ohh it does. It makes a lot of sense. I just think most of the touring pros are slightly delusional in thinking that they can actually make a living off of disc golf. Deeper payouts will keep some of the pros out on tour longer but I feel like its only a matter of time til they realize its just not cutting it.
........ok.

Your point?

Who are we to judge why someone decides to tour? I mean I don't think Lloyd Weema is out there for glory and money.
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To develop bigger fields and prestigious tournament and a larger pool of "good" and "great" players, there needs to be an increased number of pros who dedicate their life to disc golf. This can only happen by deepening the pro payout and increasing the purses. Simple as that. Sure an aspiring pro may start to tour before they are ready. If they are able to survive those first couple of year and improve their skill and consistency, not only will they start cashing more, but the purses and fields will get bigger and make it more viable for more pros to start touring. The net result for us who spectate will be more big tournaments with high stakes and more coverage. Imagine having 3+ Jomez/CCDG/Gatekeeper/ParSave tier coverage teams at large events nearly every weekend of the season. We are slowly working towards that but the money has to keep coming in and growing.
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........ok.

Your point?

Who are we to judge why someone decides to tour? I mean I don't think Lloyd Weema is out there for glory and money.
That I dont think deep payouts are all that great, thats it. Just my point of view.
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For those in favor of a deep payout, how deep are we talking? Obviously if we payout 100% of the field, that would be a joke and only heavily sponsored players could tour. So if you agree 100% is too much, what's the amount you think is just right?

45% seems too high to me. 45% makes it so thin at the bottom of those that cash, that it doesn't give you enough tour. I say, take all those spots that pay out under $300 (for the major tournaments) and spread them over the top 25%-33%. It makes it less of a struggle for the 1000-1020 rated players to tour.
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