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Old 06-24-2019, 07:03 PM
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I've never really gotten the hang of driving with my putters. Recently, I was playing a short course and drove with two of mine ( a Champion Dart and a Nova), I was trying to throw both flat, but they both turned and burned.
I feel like I could throw them straight, but would have to put a hyzer angle on them. Is that the secret to throwing putters (and hopefully everything else) longer, or am I not generating enough power on these putter drives?
What's the secret in throwing putter drives, in order to increase overall distance?
Turning and burning is not a good sign. Turning over and diving to the ground after 150'+ can happen with VERY understable putters. The Nova is tricky to grip and release right until you get the hang of it, but I have thrown them very hard and flat and gotten like 300' flights, so they can take power. Plus you can see McBeth pump them flat for 350+ many times in tourney footage.

Most putters don't need more than a touch of hyzer release and that's mostly so you feel comfortable with your release. I think you'd be best off just throwing approach shots from like 100' away from something, and step back the distance a bit at a time. Say that you don't trust throwing putters over 200', then start at 150' until you feel super confident. Then add 20' or so at a time. See if there's some point where you're muscling it or doing something weird so it "suddenly" starts flipping. Because if it suddenly burns into the ground but it wasn't doing that at a slightly shorter distance...then you know it's you. And keep working at closer to the farthest range that you feel confident at, rather than the range where you're likely to burn it badly.

Of course if there's a headwind...then this isn't the best thing to try to work out with discs like this. They'll punish you very badly for mild mistakes in wind.
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Old 06-24-2019, 07:50 PM
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Yeah I throw aviars on just a bit of hyzer and they pop up to flat and carry. If I throw them flat they don’t turn so much as slide right a little. In both throws they finish left of center though. Not a ton left, but left none the less.

A wizard shouldn’t really turn over and not come back. None of the discs you listed should be turning and burning really. Sounds like you have some oat to work out.

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I throw my S Wizards pretty exclusively. They're 3-5 years old at this point, and still hold up just fine in headwinds.

Grip is important.

You shouldn't need to put any serious amount of hyzer on them, but I would suggest throwing pure hyzer lines to improve putter throws in general. That's the benefit to a neutral to slightly overstable putter; when you put them on a line, they hold it basically to the ground.

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I throw my S Wizards pretty exclusively. They're 3-5 years old at this point, and still hold up just fine in headwinds.

Grip is important.

You shouldn't need to put any serious amount of hyzer on them, but I would suggest throwing pure hyzer lines to improve putter throws in general. That's the benefit to a neutral to slightly overstable putter; when you put them on a line, they hold it basically to the ground.
But if I have to put a hyzer angle (even small) on a putter to throw it well, how does that help me with drivers? If I put any hyzer on those (even 7-9 speed) then they hyzer off left, well before flattening out?
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But if I have to put a hyzer angle (even small) on a putter to throw it well, how does that help me with drivers? If I put any hyzer on those (even 7-9 speed) then they hyzer off left, well before flattening out?
You may not be getting the drivers up to speed or you're throwing decidedly overstable drivers. Most putters and mids like to be hyzer-flipped b/c they're much easier to hit or exceed their cruising speed and glide out rather than cut through the air.

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But if I have to put a hyzer angle (even small) on a putter to throw it well, how does that help me with drivers? If I put any hyzer on those (even 7-9 speed) then they hyzer off left, well before flattening out?
You don't have to throw them on hyzers, I just think that's the best shot to throw to get the feel for them. When you're throwing the hyzers, you want them to be holding the hyzer angle the whole way.

You can throw anhyzers, but it's harder to tell if it's holding true on the anhyzer or being OATed into an anhyzer.

Get some flippier drivers. I love my 150g DX Leopards. Hyzer flip to anhyzer is a very nice shot to be able to throw.

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Putters + more spin = more distance. Learn to throw them hard & level, and they will fly.

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I can throw my putter 250 with a tight fan grip (Maiden). I can throw my mids 260. Fairways up to 280. Drivers 300. I feel like something is seriously wrong with my distance throwing as the spread in distance between my slowest and fastest discs is~ 50 feet. Is this a normal plateau to hit during a player's progression?
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I can throw my putter 250 with a tight fan grip (Maiden). I can throw my mids 260. Fairways up to 280. Drivers 300. I feel like something is seriously wrong with my distance throwing as the spread in distance between my slowest and fastest discs is~ 50 feet. Is this a normal plateau to hit during a player's progression?
I think it should be more like 30~ feet between each disc. Putters 270 mids 300 fairways 330 distance drivers 350-370 is pretty common set for more advanced players. Drivers are much more sensitive for nose up flights and rely more on late acceleration(snap/hit) to fly properly. But dont worry its perfectly normal.

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I can throw my putter 250 with a tight fan grip (Maiden). I can throw my mids 260. Fairways up to 280. Drivers 300. I feel like something is seriously wrong with my distance throwing as the spread in distance between my slowest and fastest discs is~ 50 feet. Is this a normal plateau to hit during a player's progression?
Typically that indicates a nose up flight; putters handle nose-up the best since they are so slow and typically have minimal fade.

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