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Reviving this thread due to Avenger SS coming out as a Paul McBeth Signature disc for 2020. Is Paul really going to be throwing the Avenger SS? I have the Heat and really like it for turnover or hyzer flips and it sounds like the Avenger SS may be even more understable? Thinking I will just stick with Heats.
Wel, the McBeth line of discs are mostly overstable, so the Avenger SS is a popular disc that noodle arms like myself can throw... and many would want to buy. And yes, McBeast will throw rollers with it.
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Old 01-07-2020, 10:07 PM
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Reviving this thread due to Avenger SS coming out as a Paul McBeth Signature disc for 2020. Is Paul really going to be throwing the Avenger SS? I have the Heat and really like it for turnover or hyzer flips and it sounds like the Avenger SS may be even more understable? Thinking I will just stick with Heats.
The Avenger SS is more stable than the Heat. I love both discs but the Heat is my fav!
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Old 01-08-2020, 02:45 AM
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Reviving this thread due to Avenger SS coming out as a Paul McBeth Signature disc for 2020. Is Paul really going to be throwing the Avenger SS? I have the Heat and really like it for turnover or hyzer flips and it sounds like the Avenger SS may be even more understable? Thinking I will just stick with Heats.
Z or ESP ? for Pauls 2020 Avenger SS?

Love the flight of the HEAT but most of them are super Domey and i don΄t really like that...odd grip...but i have one ZFLX that have much less dome that all my other HEATs
The Avenger SS is flat. . .and closer in feel to Pauls "old" rollerdisc
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Old 01-08-2020, 09:36 AM
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Z or ESP ? for Pauls 2020 Avenger SS?
The pre-orders that I've seen have been for ESP
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Old 01-08-2020, 10:25 AM
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In terms of stability, I'd rank them Avenger SS, Heat, Undertow from least to most.
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Old 01-08-2020, 01:35 PM
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The pre-orders that I've seen have been for ESP
Yes, just found the pic of it. . .the 2020 ESP looks a bit "plain" vs the 2019 ESP
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Old 01-08-2020, 02:10 PM
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I've thrown an Avenger SS a few times and I bag 2-3 heats. Avenger has more of an S curve for me. It will turn more and fade more than the heat. I love the heat and use it often here in NC. Flips up and glides for days and I use an older one for rollers.
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Old 01-08-2020, 02:17 PM
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I don't notice much stability difference between the two molds (at my skill level that is not surprising) but the Heat is more predictable for me. It pretty much does what it does. The Avenger SS for me is a lot less consistent, it seems a lot more nose angle sensitive and squirrelly. Based I my experience, I think the Heat is a better driver for players who suck.

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I don't notice much stability difference between the two molds (at my skill level that is not surprising) but the Heat is more predictable for me. It pretty much does what it does. The Avenger SS for me is a lot less consistent, it seems a lot more nose angle sensitive and squirrelly. Based I my experience, I think the Heat is a better driver for players who suck.
I haven't thrown the Avenger SS much either, but the one I threw had more turn and more fade than a Heat.

I am not a fan of S turn discs, I had rather control the amount of turn with my hyzer angle... and I might throw a bit nose up with wide rim drivers.
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Old 01-10-2020, 03:06 PM
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Sad thing is, I created the thread, and now throw cranks as my understable driver. Still ended up liking the undertow best of those 3.
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