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Old 02-12-2020, 06:51 AM
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Short answer? I use a tool I designed.

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Here is the tool I created to help me buy new copies of discs I already love. I call it the Marm O. Gauge. I take the disc I love and painstakingly recreate the geometry using various methods, digitize it, then print it. Ideally, this would be laser-cut from something rigid (plastic, aluminum, etc) but thick cardstock works too. The graphic up above is my perfect Pro Leo that is very Comet-like for my throwing style.

Here’s how I use it:
1. Create the tool. Whatever you decide to use, make sure it is at least relatively stiff. Also… take your time and make sure you are cutting the gauge’s EXACT profile. Little changes make big differences. I included a 1 inch scale to make sure your print is correctly scaled.

2. Place the new disc candidate on a flat, hard surface.

3. Place the gauge on the flat surface next to the candidate and check use the line to check the PLH. The gauge's bottom edge needs to stay in contact with the flat surface for the gauge to work properly; tiny PLH shifts can be really noticeable in a disc's stability. Use the If the PLH is out of the acceptable range, put the candidate back on the shelf and choose a new candidate. If the PLH is close, continue to the next step.

4. Slide the Marm O. Gauge’s bottom edge along the flat surface until it contacts the disc’s profile. Again, the gauge's bottom edge needs to stay in contact with the flat surface for the gauge to work properly. Make sure the gauge points directly toward the center of the disc. This makes sure the gauge is aligned with the disc’s radius instead of a random chord.

5. If the candidate's profile and the gauge's profile match well enough, I use the top of the gauge to check the dome height. Slide the candidate to the edge of the flat surface and stick the gauge underneath. The projections on the top of the gauge should straddle the disc’s sprue artifacts. If the gauge raises the disc off the surface, the disc isn’t as domey as the one I love. If I can push the candidate’s dome down before it contacts the gauge, the candidate is domier than the one I love. One of my gauge designs will stand upright on the flat surface so that you don’t have to bring the disc to the edge. Plop the gauge down, put the disc’s center over it and hopefully it’s a perfect match.

6. If everything matches up, the candidate comes with me to it’s forever home

If there is enough interest in this tool then I will shoot a video and create a dedicated thread describing all this.

And yes, I realize I'm uber-nerdy
So, I looked at local disc shop and 1 Walmart and no pro leopards. Do Walmart's or other box stores like Scheels, Dicks, etc. normally carry pro leopards?
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Old 02-12-2020, 07:25 AM
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So, I looked at local disc shop and 1 Walmart and no pro leopards. Do Walmart's or other box stores like Scheels, Dicks, etc. normally carry pro leopards?
Not saying they don't, but I have never seen a pro Leopard at a big box store. I have seen them at Play it again sports though.

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Old 02-12-2020, 08:29 AM
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Not saying they don't, but I have never seen a pro Leopard at a big box store. I have seen them at Play it again sports though.
Yeah, I found one used pro leopard at a PIAS but it was not only beat to hell but also a color that I would not be able to find.
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Old 02-13-2020, 12:44 AM
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So, I looked at local disc shop and 1 Walmart and no pro leopards. Do Walmart's or other box stores like Scheels, Dicks, etc. normally carry pro leopards?
My Walmart might, the local one in Pierre SD, only has DX, XT, R-Pro and Pro as the only plastics they carry. Yeah it is odd none of the full production Pro named plastics are sold, KC Pro, the Yetti Pro Aviar, or JK Pro Aviar. I have also not seen a single 3 top disc at this Walmart either.

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Old 02-13-2020, 10:32 AM
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I'm just going to toss Tursas in here and run.. It has a slightly less chunky feel to it it's a little bit more turny on the front end and a little bit more faydee on the low speed side.
I bag a Tursas and love it, but it's not a Comet.

Closest thing I've thrown that wasn't actually a Comet is a C-Line MD.
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Old 02-13-2020, 10:38 AM
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I bag a Tursas and love it, but it's not a Comet.

Closest thing I've thrown that wasn't actually a Comet is a C-Line MD.
Really.. Hmm that's funny, I occasionally replace my ESP Comet with the TP Tursas.. I find it's really similar, maybe slightly faster and a bit more distance but I can ride a lot of the same lines. Kind of fits between my ESP and Z Comet's. Turns like a champ, glides like a fiend and has a late soft hookup when it stables out... the late stability is a little more pronounced I will give you that... Interesting.. Why do you feel that way?
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Old 02-13-2020, 10:47 AM
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Really.. Hmm that's funny, I occasionally replace my ESP Comet with the TP Tursas.. I find it's really similar, maybe slightly faster and a bit more distance but I can ride a lot of the same lines. Kind of fits between my ESP and Z Comet's. Turns like a champ, glides like a fiend and has a late soft hookup when it stables out... the late stability is a little more pronounced I will give you that... Interesting.. Why do you feel that way?
I also use a Tournament Tursas and get exactly the flight you're talking about (which is great in the woods), but Comets have always been laser-straight for me, much like the C-MD.

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Old 02-13-2020, 11:23 AM
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I also use a Tournament Tursas and get exactly the flight you're talking about (which is great in the woods), but Comets have always been laser-straight for me, much like the C-MD.
Which Comet do you use mostly? The more I think about it, the Tursas I use is like ESP on the front end and more like a big Z on the low speed side. I have a theory that a touch more LSS adds to glide and can shape a deeper anhyzer than a more neutral disc.
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Old 02-13-2020, 11:33 AM
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I gave it to my wife, but IIRC it was an X Comet. Not 100% on that, though.
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Yahar that was my guess.. X is a special type of Comet
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