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Old 02-16-2018, 08:46 AM
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md4 or a warrior is probably the best bet for a "beadless" ,overstable mold.
I agree that the md4 is a good solution. Flat, feels similar, straight to fade, and it has great glide. Really great mid.
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Old 02-16-2018, 12:06 PM
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If you're going as overstable as an MD4, just get a Buzzz OS (If you're throwing 180 Buzzzes maybe try a 170.) Similar rim as a Buzzz (like a Buzzz's rim was flexed out to raise the PLH and flatten the top.) It'll be closer than that strange squared off nose the MD4 is sporting.

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Old 02-18-2018, 10:38 PM
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Solo,I just wanna say that I got to throw one of the new swirly esp buzzes amd theyre the overstanle buzzz you want. No joke. They are a workable stability but reliable,not a buzzz os. This reminded me instantly of the great glo buzzes I was hunting in 2010/2011.
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Old 02-18-2018, 11:14 PM
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Solo,I just wanna say that I got to throw one of the new swirly esp buzzes amd theyre the overstanle buzzz you want. No joke. They are a workable stability but reliable,not a buzzz os. This reminded me instantly of the great glo buzzes I was hunting in 2010/2011.
OK, a hair off topic here, but for anyone wanting a disc that feels like a Buzzz, throws like a Buzzz, but is noticeably more overstable than a Buzzz, check out the L64 Pain. Very good overstable mid. It glides well and has good distance, but will always fade out late in fight.

IDK why, but I never got a feel for the Wasp. I like the Pain a whole lot better for overstable mid shots.
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OK, a hair off topic here, but for anyone wanting a disc that feels like a Buzzz, throws like a Buzzz, but is noticeably more overstable than a Buzzz, check out the L64 Pain. Very good overstable mid. It glides well and has good distance, but will always fade out late in fight.

IDK why, but I never got a feel for the Wasp. I like the Pain a whole lot better for overstable mid shots.
No.... Pain is more like a roc if anything
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Yeah, I agree the Pain is more Roc than Buzzz.

Unfortunately for the OP, the answer to his query is a Discraft Nebula, aka the 2008 Ace Race disc that never went into production. Discraft told me they never could get the disc to mold up consistently but the truth is Discraft would sell way more Hornets, Wasps, Buzzz OSes, and a gazillion more Buzzzes in various plastics if they never produced the Nebula. Same thing with Rocs, why sell one perfect midrange when you can sell 5 million Roc variants?

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Old 02-19-2018, 07:04 AM
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OK, a hair off topic here, but for anyone wanting a disc that feels like a Buzzz, throws like a Buzzz, but is noticeably more overstable than a Buzzz, check out the L64 Pain. Very good overstable mid. It glides well and has good distance, but will always fade out late in fight.

IDK why, but I never got a feel for the Wasp. I like the Pain a whole lot better for overstable mid shots.
definitely different than the buzzz flight and not as wind resistant as a wasp or stable buzzz, i never liked it. it just wasnt very hss . either way, it is OOP and no longer available.
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Just checking in to see if anything has changed on this...looking for a Buzzz, not OS, or another mold. Which plastic for he most fade? Z Glo, Ti, Z FLX? Thanks!
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Just checking in to see if anything has changed on this...looking for a Buzzz, not OS, or another mold. Which plastic for he most fade? Z Glo, Ti, Z FLX? Thanks!
Out of mine +25 Buzzz... the FLX CryZtal
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Old 02-20-2020, 02:40 PM
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Just checking in to see if anything has changed on this...looking for a Buzzz, not OS, or another mold. Which plastic for he most fade? Z Glo, Ti, Z FLX? Thanks!
The Crystal one I have with a tournament stamp is the most OS one I have thrown. Not sure how common they are. Zflex was stable but seemed to have less glide than normal. Just my experience with it.
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