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Default Vandal Proof Pin Holders

I'm installing a course in an urban park in a not-so-great part of town, and am looking for ideas about how to secure the pins in a way that allows fairly easy rotation of baskets but makes it difficult to cut the locks and steal baskets. Each hole will have 2-3 pin locations so being able to move the baskets is a must.

Any good ideas out there?
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Old 01-02-2012, 11:12 PM
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Shrouded padlocks maybe?
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Circular padlocks seem to work best since it's harder to get a bolt cutter on the shank.
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Old 01-02-2012, 11:25 PM
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Default Tips for securing baskets

For starters, there are so many different basket manufacturers to choose from, several new ones have been approved by the PDGA in the past year.

Gateway's baskets get high marks because the lock shackle goes thru the anchor and the pole, so the pole will not come out of the anchor unless the shackle is cut, whereas a DGA basket (Mach II, III, V) simply requires unscrewing one nut and one screw and you lift out the whole pole with cage and chain assembly, and leave the anchor, sleeve, and intact lock behind, truly lame when you think about it. We just had hole 3 stolen from CSUMB/Oaks (2011 Pro Worlds course), and that was the fifth basket stolen in the past 2 years..............

So here are a couple pointers:

Use plenty of cement, an extra $ 1 of cement can be that is needed to give the thief a hernia, I would always use at least an 80 lb bag, not a 60 lb bag.

Use RED (not Blue) Locktite on the bolts/nuts, so in the case of a DGA basket, that will prevent the chain assembly from being lifted off, and also prevent the pole sleeve from being liberated from the pole.

Even better, if you know someone with a portable welder, put a couple welds on the assembly so the parts can not be detached and removed from the overall assembly.

When it comes to selecting locks, these days some lock makers are using harder shackle metals, which should he harder to cut, so spend the extra money to get the boron carbide shackles, etc. And also try to get the locks that do not have exposed shackles, bolt cutters will have a real hard time getting any contact with the shackle if you use those types of locks.

Hope that someday there is a cheap Lojack service that can track a basket if it disappears.

Also think about a way to permanently mark your baskets so if anybody ever sees the stolen baskets, they will know exactly where they came from. Talk to an experienced metal worker, they may know how to etch or weld some logo onto the assembly.
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The circular padlocks a extremely easy to bump though.
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Drop a piece of rebar down into your pole too...this will make it much more difficult to just hack the thing down. Unfortunately, they will do damage figuring that out, but at least the basket will still be there.
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Look at the pins on the Towne Lake course in Mckinney. Impossible to cut locks, you have to cut the pole
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Look at the pins on the Towne Lake course in Mckinney. Impossible to cut locks, you have to cut the pole
though who would steal those POS baskets is a mystery
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I dont like the guy but he has a point
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Thanks for the feedback! These will be Gateway baskets, which we selected entirely because they seem to be the heaviest duty (and hopefully vandalism resistant)

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Look at the pins on the Towne Lake course in Mckinney. Impossible to cut locks, you have to cut the pole
I checked out the photo online, what are those boxes? I've seen similar sprinkler boxes before that completely protect the locks. Is that a sprinkler box?
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