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Old 02-06-2020, 10:40 PM
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That last video was great. Paul doing color and Brodie learning the game... I found it entertaining and educational. I would enjoy it more however if they were throwing Innova.
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Old 02-06-2020, 10:44 PM
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That last video was great. Paul doing color and Brodie learning the game... I found it entertaining and educational. I would enjoy it more however if they were throwing Innova.
A few years too late for that unfortunately

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Old 02-06-2020, 11:08 PM
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Bro vs FPO might be interesting.


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Old 02-07-2020, 02:18 AM
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Uhhhh .... Now do one Brodie vs Hannah around the house

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Old 02-07-2020, 04:10 AM
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Nice video..i really liked Pauls coaching

I must admit that after +20y of playing i did not know that you was not allowed to touch the basket when you tap out
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Old 02-07-2020, 05:27 AM
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Nice video..i really liked Pauls coaching

I must admit that after +20y of playing i did not know that you was not allowed to touch the basket when you tap out
That surprised me. I don't think Paul is right about that. At least not by current rules or how I see most tapouts happening, most pros look like they brush the basket with their thumb while dropping it in. Perhaps it's to do with having a pivot point closer to the basket than the lie?
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Old 02-07-2020, 09:16 AM
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That surprised me. I don't think Paul is right about that. At least not by current rules or how I see most tapouts happening, most pros look like they brush the basket with their thumb while dropping it in. Perhaps it's to do with having a pivot point closer to the basket than the lie?
Per rule 807.B "In order to complete a hole with a basket target, the thrower must release the disc and it must enter the target above the top of the tray and below the bottom of the chain support, and come to rest supported by the target."

Maybe this is paul's interpretation of "the thrower must release the disc" with the idea being if you are still holding your disc and your disc touches the basket. Then you would probably have a contact point in front of your lie.

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Old 02-07-2020, 10:42 AM
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Once Brodie truly understands disc selection, disc manipulation and angle control, he will be a force. His form will come quickly, it's the disc iq that takes time. Little things like knowing to throw a flippy fairway on hyzer instead of a stable fairway on hyzer in certain situations is an example of shots that take time to fully comprehend. Having Paul, and eventually other pros, there to explain these things will certainly help expedite this.
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Old 02-07-2020, 11:32 AM
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I used to agree with what Paul said, but now I'm not so sure. Here's why:
802.07:
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If the lie has been marked by a marker disc, then when the disc is released, the player must:
Have at least one supporting point that is in contact with the lie; and,
Have no supporting point closer to the target than the rear edge of the marker disc; and,
Have all supporting points in-bounds.
Therefore, if a "supporting point" is defined as including the disc in the player's hand (which I used to think it did), then touching the basket with that disc before you release it would be a penalty. Thankfully, "supporting point" is clearly defined in the rules (802.04.B):
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A supporting point is any part of the player's body that is, at the time of release, in contact with the playing surface or any other object that provides support.
So the disc clearly isn't included (as it couldn't be defined as a part of the player's body unlike clothing or shoes could be considered a part of it, and even if it could, you'd have to show in that situation that the person was using the basket to support their weight). I can't find anything else in the rules that adds to the discussion, but maybe I'm missing something.

If someone was a few feet away and could put their disc in the basket, point their arm up straight, bend 90 degrees at the elbow, stretch their toes behind their lie, and then say they'd holed out, I'm sure they'd be called. Beyond that, it doesn't seem to be illegal.

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Old 02-07-2020, 12:29 PM
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Can someone give the timecode to what part of the video all this rules talk is referring to thatd be great. Sure not going to watch the entire video.
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