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Old 06-05-2021, 12:03 AM
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Another interesting stat, and not unexpected, the strokes gained tee to green ranged from +7.17 down to -11.4. The strokes gained putting ranges from +3.73 to -3.96, a much smaller spread. In other words, not much separated good putters from bad ones. But for someone who can crank out the distance, a big advantage. Again, not unexpected, but that is a pretty large difference in ranges.
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Old 06-05-2021, 12:09 AM
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With 17 attempts if I interpret the data correctly. There must be a back story or transcription errors.
Those C1x stats on the simple expanded scorecard also include "Parked" putts. If you look at the "Throw in Distance" you'll see he has 15 made putts at 5ft. If you click on the profile button when you expand a player's scorecard, it will give you a 3rd putting stat, which separates the C1x stats from the overall C1s.

He's 15/17 inside C1 overall and 0/2 from C1x. He also made 3 C2 putts. Just a weird day where he was either just outside the circle or basically parked.

I had this problem when i first started following the scores on udisc. They should have that expanded scorecard say C1 not C1x.
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Old 06-05-2021, 12:14 AM
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MPO and FPO ratings appear to be quite different.
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Old 06-05-2021, 12:17 AM
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Data must be off--holes 2 and 3 for instance, he birdied. Unless he has 800' distance and missed eagle putts, Udisc shows he made 5' putts (the typical distance for a parked hole.) But there are entries for missed C1 putts as well. I don't think all his made putts were 5' or 38', which is what Udisc is saying.
It's either lazy scorekeeping, or maybe one of the players was doing it and just did as little as possible to keep in mind in the game or something. They have preset distances to make it quicker to use. For putts it goes 5' 16' 27' 38' and so on. Basically whoever did the scoring just made sure it was marked a C2 by making the minimum for a C2 putt at 38' and the shortest putt of 5' for all C1s.
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Old 06-05-2021, 12:19 AM
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MPO and FPO ratings appear to be quite different.
There several short tees for the FPO.
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Old 06-05-2021, 12:37 AM
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There several short tees for the FPO.
That's not what I'm talking about.

FPO seems inflated across the board. PP and Cat hot round is well above their rating 30 and 40 pts. Hailey shoots 4 strokes worse and still almost 20 pts above her rating.

MPO seems deflated across the board. Ricky's hot round is only 2 pts higher than his rating.

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Old 06-05-2021, 12:48 AM
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Yea... That does look at bit odd. Maybe something weird like the two layouts are straddling a cut off point? One course is in this ratings tier and the other is in the next one up or down?
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Old 06-05-2021, 09:27 AM
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Yea... That does look at bit odd. Maybe something weird like the two layouts are straddling a cut off point? One course is in this ratings tier and the other is in the next one up or down?
I don’t know the nuances of the ratings formula, but from what I know it makes sense. The mpo scores are bunched up a lot. The top rated guys didn’t shoot far ahead of the pack/there are a bunch of players right behind them. Also, a few of the higher rated guys played below their rating and are with the pack.

FPO is a different story. The pack is well behind the leaders and is even more bunched together. Therefore the distribution isn’t as normal and it rewards the ladies who got ahead of the pack.

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What’s with everybody using the tee pads and going off to the side? Outside of giving a better/different attack angle, seems to take away the intended design of the hole.
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That's not what I'm talking about.

FPO seems inflated across the board. PP and Cat hot round is well above their rating 30 and 40 pts. Hailey shoots 4 strokes worse and still almost 20 pts above her rating.

MPO seems deflated across the board. Ricky's hot round is only 2 pts higher than his rating.
Actually, for the whole field it was the opposite.

The average MPO player's round rating was 8.74 points avove their player rating.

The average FPO player's round rating was only 2.74 points above their player ratings.

Ryan P. explained why it looks like it does if you only look at the top players.

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