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There's different kind of Vans shoes, from the pictures I've seen the Ultrarange are not the very flat sole type. Drew Gibson use them since a while.
Wonder if related to his injury.
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Old 06-14-2021, 05:56 PM
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Wonder if related to his injury.
Reported to be an issue with the turf pads at Portland Open. Whether the Vans made him more susceptible to ankle injury, can only speculate.
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Old 06-14-2021, 07:00 PM
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I have been wearing a pair of the Merrell Nova non waterproof trail runners everyday for a few months now. Really loving them. Haven't played as much dg as I'd like to have, but after over a dozen rounds and wearing them walking, hiking, playing with kiddos, and everything else daily, they are holding up great. Also easily the best fitting shoe for my foot I've ever worn.

I also really considered the Altra Lone Peaks. I have a pair of Altras that I run in. Super comfy and I like the zero drop fit. I do know that my lightweight Altra road runners are NOT for disc golf. Wore them one round and my right shoe was nearly shredded.
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Old 06-14-2021, 07:25 PM
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Wonder if related to his injury.
Could be but It seems he didn't has much trouble with them before. Like McBeth ankle injury it's hard to really know and it's probably more than one reason.

One thing I noticed is with trail running shoes with good padding, my feet and shins feel fine but my hips and knees get sore. With my minimalist shoes it's the opposite and even when I slip It's easier to maintain balance but it's all anecdotes, nothing scientific.

I think overall form is more important, a bad form can hurt you and even a powerful form might be bad in the long run like Tiger Wood in golf but who knows maybe he just had a predisposition, I'm no specialist.

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The reports were that the turf tees at Portland were too grippy, though. So, whatever the contribution of the Vans to Gibson's injury, I wouldn’t think that too little grip was the issue. Although, like racing slicks, I would think a smoother sole shoe could be too grippy at times, and not enough at others.

Just an idle thought, though.
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Zero drop shoes have solid positives and negatives. I have a pair of Xero zero drop trail shoes and they fit and feel great. I feel like my putting is better while wearing them because I feel more stable. The problem is that on a hilly course, the zero drop burns out your calves. Not a huge deal for a casual round, and maybe even a positive when you consider you are getting extra workout. But if you play competitively, I wouldn't want extra fatigue on a two round day.
In my experience, after learning how to walk properly in them it's not that much different than regular shoes. Also, I've been playing in zero drop barefoot shoes for long enough that trying to throw in a normal shoe kills my timing and consistency...not that it's that great to begin with, but you know :P
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do any barefoots/minimalist really last for dg standards

also back to the op i didnt like terrex for dg unless it was dirt pads on the cement they just felt like clunky cleats
My Xeros definitely started to show signs of wear a lot faster than a normal shoe, but after almost two years they are still kicking strong. The tread and the upper of the shoe is completely fine, but I've had to do a couple applications of shoe goo since the upper was separating from the tread at the toe. They look like hell currently, but they work as good as they ever have. By two years the 3 pairs of Merrels and the one pair of Keens I had previously the tread was almost completely worn smooth, including one of the Merrels that the tread started separating from the toe literally like 2 months after I got them. I think, on average, the barefoot shoes won't last as long, but I don't think it's enough to really be an issue.

I played a tournament round with a guy earlier this year who has been wearing Vivo Barefoots for years and he said they last pretty similarly to a standard shoe.
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Old 06-14-2021, 09:36 PM
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My Xeros definitely started to show signs of wear a lot faster than a normal shoe, but after almost two years they are still kicking strong. The tread and the upper of the shoe is completely fine, but I've had to do a couple applications of shoe goo since the upper was separating from the tread at the toe. They look like hell currently, but they work as good as they ever have. By two years the 3 pairs of Merrels and the one pair of Keens I had previously the tread was almost completely worn smooth, including one of the Merrels that the tread started separating from the toe literally like 2 months after I got them. I think, on average, the barefoot shoes won't last as long, but I don't think it's enough to really be an issue.

I played a tournament round with a guy earlier this year who has been wearing Vivo Barefoots for years and he said they last pretty similarly to a standard shoe.
interesting

i was getting a split from the sole and the fabric on the sides cuz of my nasty pivot and have been using shoe goo on it (thanks skateboarding) to prolong it but i wasnt sure if that was "normal"

thank you for the explanation tho

i mean sure i could clean up my form but buying new shoes is easier
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Could be but It seems he didn't has much trouble with them before. Like McBeth ankle injury it's hard to really know and it's probably more than one reason.

One thing I noticed is with trail running shoes with good padding, my feet and shins feel fine but my hips and knees get sore. With my minimalist shoes it's the opposite and even when I slip It's easier to maintain balance but it's all anecdotes, nothing scientific.

I think overall form is more important, a bad form can hurt you and even a powerful form might be bad in the long run like Tiger Wood in golf but who knows maybe he just had a predisposition, I'm no specialist.
Yeah that’s why it’s suggested to slowly transition into zero drop shoes. Higher drop shoes direct impact to your joints, zero drop to your muscles…primarily calves.

Most minimal shoes are zero drop, but not all zero drop shoes are minimalist. All of Altra’s models are zero drop but they have a couple with fat stacks of cushioning underneath. Zero drop is just a foot position thing.

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Reported to be an issue with the turf pads at Portland Open. Whether the Vans made him more susceptible to ankle injury, can only speculate.
I can't be positive about this, but I recall watching the Jomez Portland Open practice round and on one tee pad Big Jerm said someone's going to twist their ankle on this.

I believe the tee pad was not level and the right side was either higher or lower (can't remember) than the rest of the tee pad.

Again....that's what I recall. If I have a chance tonight, I'll re-watch it and update this.
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