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Old 06-16-2021, 01:07 PM
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I've had a Thunderbird from a players pack from a few years ago and I just put it in the bag for the first time this year. Needless to say, The more that I throw this disc, the more that I'm in love with it! The one that I have is a glow champ, so how do the other plastics compare with stability?
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Old 06-16-2021, 01:27 PM
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I've had a Thunderbird from a players pack from a few years ago and I just put it in the bag for the first time this year. Needless to say, The more that I throw this disc, the more that I'm in love with it! The one that I have is a glow champ, so how do the other plastics compare with stability?
Star-more stable, GStar-similar but beats in maybe a bit quicker, Pro-similar but beats in much quicker, DX-less stable. At least for my noodle arm. People that throw harder might see a little more separation when new. Haven’t tried a pure champ because every plain champ disc I’ve bought lately has been an unusably overstable brick
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Old 06-16-2021, 02:41 PM
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Never thrown a glow. To echo Ogre, typical Innova:

Champ>Star>Gstar>Pro>DX.
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Old 06-16-2021, 03:13 PM
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The one that I have is a glow champ, so how do the other plastics compare with stability?
I have a couple flatish champ glows from 2017 tournaments. -- best flat-to-hyzer thundys that I've thrown. I love them for a low forehand line.

My plain champs (McBeths) started out more overstable and have gotten straighter as they've aged; the glows seem to hold their fade as they beat a little better, kinda like an OLF. I have a newer champ with a 2019 tournament stamp that is more domey and slots in closer to my Firebirds.

The stars I have thrown have been more stable than champs; never threw one enough to see how it beat in. The pro has a shot shape like my beat glow champ when new, maybe a tick more turn.

Early DX thundys were nice -- stiff and stable. The newer ones I have thrown have been softer and don't handle my torque very well.

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Old 06-16-2021, 04:39 PM
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The star thundies, prior to them being embossed, were beef. Probably 17 or 18. Mcbeth 3x Champs were straight with a little finish.
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Old 06-16-2021, 08:00 PM
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whats closest to the first run star teebirds these days?
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Old 06-16-2021, 09:20 PM
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whats closest to the first run star teebirds these days?
Super beat Star Firebird. Sorry, i know you were asking for a real answer not a semi smart ass one. Although, despite not really being the answer you were looking for, it does not mean it is not true.
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Old 06-23-2021, 05:04 AM
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I have a factory second Champion Thunderbird that is absolute money, it's probably my favourite disc in my bag. Max weight and it can take all the power I have while still being quite workable. I can work it on a lot of different angles and it's not too much work to throw it straight. It goes almost as far as my distance drivers and a full power shot will consistently land me on the 120m mark. (it's not beat up, it flew like this out of the box)

Now to the problem... I own three more Champion Thunderbirds that I got as backups and all of them are A LOT more overstable and dumpy. They're very close to firebird stable, definitely a notch more stable than my Felons and my PDs. They start fading much sooner than the money one, the fade is a lot dumpier and I need to really crank them over to flex them into a straight shot. The plastic on these seems firmer and more pop top, maybe a touch more domey.

What gives? Any insight to what is the normal? I used to throw Vultures and the money one is just a touch more stable compared to those, which is what I wanted, but the rest of the Thunderbirds.... yeez.
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What gives? Any insight to what is the normal?
Champs have become more OS than Star at this point. Originally, they were more neutral and like a stretched out TeeBird and the early stiff Star ones were OS. If you want a neutral one, seek out the older penned runs that have a slight dome. Could also look at the Savant/OLF for a current run stock disc.
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Old 06-23-2021, 12:54 PM
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Champs have become more OS than Star at this point. Originally, they were more neutral and like a stretched out TeeBird and the early stiff Star ones were OS. If you want a neutral one, seek out the older penned runs that have a slight dome. Could also look at the Savant/OLF for a current run stock disc.
I'm not interested in chasing a certain run, that feels like a frustrating ordeal. I might just return to Getaways or Vultures.
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