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Old 01-05-2010, 07:44 PM
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Default XS vs. TL

I've been trying out some slower drivers lately and have come to love the Z XS. I haven't thrown the TL all that much, but they seem pretty similar to me. The XS seems slightly slower, but man does that thing have some glide. I can put the XS on a slight hyzer and it will flip up and hold what is possibly the straightest line of any driver I've ever thrown. I can get it out about the same distance as my Teebird, but it has much less fade and requires a hyzer-flip or it will turn over, which is why I'm comparing it to the TL. Has anyone thrown both of these discs and if so how would you compare them and which do you prefer? Is there possibly another disc out there that can outshine both of these?
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Old 01-05-2010, 08:13 PM
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I found a z xs on a course with no name or number so I started to throw it....great disc for everything listed above. I picked up a tl not knowing they were similar, just because I always wanted one, and was suprised how identical they fly....I could say that I can hyzer flip the tl better and also control it a little better....but the difference is miniscule, and that could be that the xs is a tad heavier....

the xs is the disc where water or deep snow comes into play though...easy come, easy go.
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Old 01-05-2010, 11:28 PM
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The TL definitely trumps the XS. I carry at least 3 TLs at all times in different plastic and wear and an XS for thumbers and I would throw the TL over the XS any day for any situation
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Old 01-06-2010, 02:37 AM
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I don't and have not thrown the TL but I do throw Teebirds in DX and Champ. My DX are somewhat beat so like a TL most likely and they are nice and long and straight with a world of glide

I also throw XS...but not Z...too piggish to begin with

I do have XSs in old Tourney Pro plastic and they are a great compliment to my Teebirds

where the Teebirds get used for fairway throws with fade or flat straight throws I can use my XSs for turnovers on flat throws and hyzer flips

these 2 discs cover my hyzer, flat, and anhyzer duties

if I had to replace the XS I would go with a pro Leopard (maybe...because I am a fan of Millennium...a M plastic JLS)
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Old 01-06-2010, 02:46 PM
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I carry both. TL for straight shots and an old D XS is my roller disc
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Old 01-06-2010, 03:50 PM
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I find the XS to be more like a Valk or Viking than a TL. The Z or ESP XL is closer to a TL, IMO.
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Old 01-06-2010, 04:37 PM
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I find the XS to be more like a Valk or Viking than a TL. The Z or ESP XL is closer to a TL, IMO.
Are you saying you think the XS is faster than the TL, more understable, longer, or what? Just trying to understand what you think the differences are since I have only thrown the TL on a few occasions.
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Old 01-06-2010, 04:42 PM
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My opinion is that the TL is much straighter distance. The XS is, obviously straight, but requires more room to throw with a little flex to get to where the TL goes straight off the hand. This could be a bad example as the TL is new and star and my XS is old D. The TL is longer for (ME) on a straight line than the XS
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Are you saying you think the XS is faster than the TL, more understable, longer, or what? Just trying to understand what you think the differences are since I have only thrown the TL on a few occasions.
A bit faster, a bit harder to control, a bit more nose angle sensitive, a bit longer, a bit better on lower lines. Basically the difference between a faster fairway driver and a slower distance driver, both with similar stabilities.
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Old 01-06-2010, 06:01 PM
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a well informed person did say that the XS should not be listed as a speed 7 but rather it should be closer to 8 or 8.5

thus rendering the equation to a Valk valid
and why it, at one time, set the distance record
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