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However when you separate the hands to a one-handed swing this changes where the swing center comes through inline both shoulders instead of perpendicular to shoulders/chest, so the trail side must counter the swing side. The backhand throw is more similar to pitching or bowling backhand, than batting or golf swing with two-hands, but if you swing the bat or club one-handed it's the same.
I have seen you say this a few times and I think I am finally understanding what you are meaning...but could you mark up an image to make it a bit more clear what you mean by swing center?

The way I am imagining it, in a BH throw the throwing arm extends out at the shoulder and shortly after the hit the arm is in line with both shoulders when everything fully releases. Whereas in two handed swings the torso moves with the swing and the impact or club feels like it releases kind of in the middle of your chest.
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Old 10-25-2018, 03:50 AM
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I have seen you say this a few times and I think I am finally understanding what you are meaning...but could you mark up an image to make it a bit more clear what you mean by swing center?

The way I am imagining it, in a BH throw the throwing arm extends out at the shoulder and shortly after the hit the arm is in line with both shoulders when everything fully releases. Whereas in two handed swings the torso moves with the swing and the impact or club feels like it releases kind of in the middle of your chest.
Correct. Whoah I look just like a ballerina in the middle.

Two-Handed Swing Center ---- Both arms extended Swing Center ---- One-Arm Swing Center Shifted to Front Leg.

Two-Handed:

Both Arms Extended:

One Arm Feet Together Stance:

Swim from center:

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Old 10-25-2018, 12:06 PM
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This thread is exactly what I needed.

I'm working on this a lot. Currently my off arm is pretty inactive, tucked out of the way sort of left/behind my torso. Because of this, it's several inches away from my body when I swing.

When I try to get it in swim position (drew Gibson style), it seemingly gets in the way of my swing a little bit and makes it feel strange/out of control. I'm a big dude, but I'm wondering if it's just practice with that new position or I should try something other than what Drew Gibson does and try to keep it more out of the way.
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Old 10-25-2018, 01:29 PM
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This thread is exactly what I needed.

I'm working on this a lot. Currently my off arm is pretty inactive, tucked out of the way sort of left/behind my torso. Because of this, it's several inches away from my body when I swing.

When I try to get it in swim position (drew Gibson style), it seemingly gets in the way of my swing a little bit and makes it feel strange/out of control. I'm a big dude, but I'm wondering if it's just practice with that new position or I should try something other than what Drew Gibson does and try to keep it more out of the way.
Drew Gibson used to be chubby and went overhead:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnOu8ePftkw#t=3m50s

Schwebby, big guy, former tennis player and USDGC Distance Champ:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pglQGlTOh2o&t=3m39s

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Old 10-25-2018, 01:55 PM
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I'm doing almost the exact thing as that tennis player right now, except maybe not getting in quite as tight to my side.

Going to experiment with a few styles. I love the big arcing circle, it just looks cool haha
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I'm doing almost the exact thing as that tennis player right now, except maybe not getting in quite as tight to my side.

Going to experiment with a few styles. I love the big arcing circle, it just looks cool haha
Lol, that tennis player is Roger Federer - the goat!
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Old 10-25-2018, 02:24 PM
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Lol, that tennis player is Roger Federer - the goat!
I am way under-educated on the pro tennis scene, despite playing for several years when I was younger.
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Old 10-25-2018, 02:33 PM
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So is it ok to go over the top?

I naturally like to kind GG my left arm, and I have noticed I throw a bit farther, but tend to miss my line a bit more.

Swimming under like most pros requires me to think in my swing, while the same move 'over the top' just happens without thought.

If you see that 360 I posted in my form thread I did it without thinking.

https://youtu.be/bFX9cn9g72I
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