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Old 05-08-2017, 05:14 PM
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Sounds like a Verdict could be the disc to fill the gap between my VIP Bard and Opto Claymore.
I carry both a Verdict and a Bard, but I use them for different ranges. My Verdict is closing in on FD distances. I reserve the Bard for shorter OS duties.
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Old 05-16-2017, 03:09 PM
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I've thrown my Verdict a few more times and all I can say is that it's exactly what I was looking for

It's easy to throw and has a nice, straight flight before a good fade. I needed that shot since I took the Drone out of my bag and my Roc3 is getting pretty straight. I've made some great shots with the Verdict so far and I can't wait to throw it some more! Hooray
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Old 07-07-2017, 09:35 AM
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Anyone cycling prime verdicts? I have two bio fusions, two lucids, and just threw around a prime for the first time the other day. Ironically it seems as though out of the box verdict plastics are the opposite stability of what you'd expect (prime>bio>lucid). Curious if anyone has managed to beat one of those board flat prime verdicts into more of a turnover mid.
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Old 07-07-2017, 10:59 AM
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Anyone cycling prime verdicts? I have two bio fusions, two lucids, and just threw around a prime for the first time the other day. Ironically it seems as though out of the box verdict plastics are the opposite stability of what you'd expect (prime>bio>lucid). Curious if anyone has managed to beat one of those board flat prime verdicts into more of a turnover mid.
I bagged a Prime Verdict for a while. It's actually got some flip now and the Gila replaced it for that slot. Prime Verdicts do start out very OS, but they definitely lose their HSS first and it doesn't take that long to get them to start flipping a little (although they still fade hard). Prime is not very durable plastic and it will both chunk/gash and warp so it's just a matter of tree hits before it loses stability.
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Old 07-07-2017, 11:09 AM
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I bag a prime and lucid verdict. For now the prime is reserved for my most OS mid shots so it isn't breaking in too quickly and I haven't noticed much change yet. Hoping it will tame as it beats in as my lucid verdict does encroach on fairway driver distances and the thought of having the control of a verdict pushing out there further is very appealing.

The verdict is one of the few discs that will never leave my bag. Great disc.

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Old 07-31-2017, 04:40 PM
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I'm bagging a pair of Lucid Verdicts in heavier weights right now.

One is beat and showing turn, and I've added a fresh one.

Nice disc

Good HSS but flexes nicely, reliablely strong LSS.

Perfect to pair with the Truth when the wind is kicking up, or I need a long straight mid shot that tucks in behind a tree to the left.
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Old 07-31-2017, 06:46 PM
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I bag a max weight Lucid for my default mid duties. It is starting to get milder fade so I may have to bring in a new one soon. I also have a biofusion one that is nice and beat in, flies more like a truth or buzz now. One of the best discs made IMHO. I carry this and a Prodigy M4 (another one of my favorite discs), and with those two can hit almost any line.
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Old 07-31-2017, 07:17 PM
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I like these a lot. They remind me a lot of a Trilogy Nebula. If they were a little smaller diameter they'd be great Nebula clones.
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Old 07-31-2017, 10:30 PM
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I like these a lot. They remind me a lot of a Trilogy Nebula. If they were a little smaller diameter they'd be great Nebula clones.
Funny you would say that because that is exactly what I have been thinking the last week. Why I ever sold off my Nebula stash a few years back is a great mystery to me, but I was able to get my hands on three new ESP Nebulas last week. Maybe too late to convert back to them, but I have an irrational desire to like this disc for some reason.

Anywho, I have been through the midrange gambit, throwing everything from Rocs, Roc3s, Buzzzes, Ghosts, Axis, Sharks, Pains, Truths, EMac Truths, and finally Verdicts.

Initially I was pairing the Verdicts with Truths, but then I discovered that Truths became unpredictably flipping when trying to stretch them out. I had one or two BioFuzion Truths that were money, but with my ability to lose discs, I needed more backups. I then gave EMac Truths a try when they came out, but I never completely gelled with them. They had the stability I wanted for a flat, straight mid shot, but they seemed more prone to griplocked misfires than my older Truths (despite being more stable) or my Verdicts.

Then, during a marathon overnight round at the Winter Carnival (it was dark from 5pm to 7am), I decided to go with only one disc so I can maximize the amount of lights I could tape to it (tape does not like to stick to discs in the cold, especially when it gets covered with snow). I had just purchased a nice new Lucid Verdict because I wanted something with a strong finish. Most of the holes were 300-330 feet definitely benefiting a rhbh. It was during this marathon, approximately 184 holes in the dark throwing the Verdict exclusively, that I discovered that with my throwing style and power, the Verdict is not overstable, just very stable. It flies tremendously straight with only a mild fade when thrown with power. It only seems overstable when I am trying to throw less than 260.

I am at the point that I use it as a short fairway driver as well as a workhorse mid. I do couple it with a Buzzz SS, Mortar, and Warrant, but my seasoned Fuzion Verdicts are near perfection. Two weeks ago it netted two aces in two days, one for league cash.

To wrap up, I picked up a new dyed Lucid Verdict to throw on scarier holes in place of my 2x ace Fuzion Verdict (this ace Verdict is actually in my day-to-day bag and not my tournament set-up, so it is not even my main Verdict). Before I sing the undying love song for Verdicts, this new dyed seems considerably straighter out of the box and may require a longer learning curve. None of my other Verdicts behave like it; it is almost like it is an EMac Truth mismarked as a Verdict.
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Old 10-24-2017, 11:14 AM
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Presently I'm throwing a lucid verdict on forehand shots, and I'm wondering if there exists something like a verdict SS, one that stays straight on a forehand but with less fade. I understand that a beat up lucid verdict might work out OK, but I don't know if they lose HSS or LSS. Maybe I could snag a biofuzion and lean on it for a bit.

I've tried a max weight Z buzzz here but had it flip on me hard when I threw it with a little bit of OAT. Normally I have pretty smooth midrange FH form but I'd prefer something more forgiving... HSS is the name of the game.

I guess the obvious trilogy choice could be an Emac Truth - are these truly more stable than a Z buzzz?
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