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Old 10-29-2013, 11:11 AM
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Default Overlap in base and non-base plastics while cycling a mold

Five molds (Eagle, Teebird, Leo, Roc, Comet) in my bag are ideal for cycling, and three of these are ready to have or have already had new discs in that mold brought into the bag, and I'm ready to commit to starting to cycle.

My long-term plan with these molds is to cycle the base plastics and keep a premium plastic version of each mold to hold onto that overstable slot. For example, my current DX Teebird is nicely seasoned and beat straight. I plan on picking up another DX and season that so that when the first DX gets too beat, I'll still have one with that that dead-straight Teebird flight. At the same time, I plan on picking up a Star Teebird for the straight-to-fade line, and particularly to have something with less fade than an Eagle.

Eventually that Star Teebird will beat in and need to be replaced. At that time, won't it overlap with a seasoned DX? Won't the same thing happen with KC/Star Rocs and their DX counterparts and Star E-X's and DX E-X's? Will the seasoned non-DX discs just be shorter than their DX counterparts, but overlap in all other respects?
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Old 10-29-2013, 11:16 AM
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My whole goal for cycling all 7 of my rocs is that hopefully one day the champ, star, and ce rocs I have in my bag will be able to take the place of my beat up dx rocs.
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Old 10-29-2013, 11:19 AM
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yep the only reason I would hang onto the DX at that point would be for shots with high risk of disc-loss or playing in wet throwing conditions.
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Old 10-29-2013, 11:32 AM
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I've thought about this exact situation. I have a Z Wasp for OS mid duties so that I don't need to get a fresh DX Roc every time they beat out of the OS fresh Roc state. For drivers I have a domey Champ Firebird that I use for my beefy TB shots, since it isn't silly OS and only goes as far as my teebirds.
In essence I tend to keep a premium plastic version of the beefy disc I throw so that it stays that way for a long time.
The biggest difference I've found between beat baseline versus premium plastic is the glide. Beat baseline discs also are more capable of the wicked late turn shot than their premium counterparts in my experience.
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Old 10-29-2013, 11:38 AM
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Overlapping doesn't matter as long as you know your discs. Who cares if you have two discs that do similar lines? I carry 20-22 discs normally and know them all very well as I play everyday.

Get to know your discs and don't worry about this overlap crap.
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Old 10-29-2013, 11:42 AM
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Overlapping doesn't matter as long as you know your discs. Who cares if you have two discs that do similar lines? I carry 20-22 discs normally and know them all very well as I play everyday.

Get to know your discs and don't worry about this overlap crap.
Yea, just carry 20 star boss's and dont worry that they all do the same thing. More power to ya man.
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Old 10-29-2013, 11:50 AM
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Yea, just carry 20 star boss's and dont worry that they all do the same thing. More power to ya man.
Exactly, you could also carry 49 Blizzard Vulcans too.

Seriously though if you know your discs overlap doesnt matter. Its just a little extra weight to carry. Feldberg is pretty good and he's been known to carry close to 40.
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Old 10-29-2013, 11:56 AM
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Exactly, you could also carry 49 Blizzard Vulcans too.

Seriously though if you know your discs overlap doesnt matter. Its just a little extra weight to carry. Feldberg is pretty good and he's been known to carry close to 40.
Yea but that was because he carried backups and that the discs were al slightly different.

I used to carry a champ gator and a new run flat top firebird. I took the gator out because they overlapped and I would use them on the same shots. WHy would I keep that disc in the bag.

Also if I could I would carry 15 rocs if I had the space for them because they would all fly just that little bit different.
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Old 10-29-2013, 12:02 PM
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So a Firebird and Gator are the same yet 15 Rocs are different? K.
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Old 10-29-2013, 12:09 PM
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I suppose it comes down to cycling philosophy, but the whole point of cycling (to me) is to have an endless supply of beat discs. I prefer throwing beat discs to fresh ones and when I lose a beat disc, I need one to step in and take its place. I imagine I'd use a beat DX TeeBird, a beat Champ TeeBird, and then if I needed something more OS, I'd reach for my beat Firebird. I'm sure there are those of you that can take advantage of minute differences between discs, but I like to keep the numbers down for consistency's sake.
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