Backhand 1357

[NoseDownKing]

Originally Posted by sidewinder22

Should feel more effortless and freewheeling, gliding, swively pivot into backswing.

Because feet are not in the way of each other and no need to turn back as much when already closed?

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[NoseDownKing]

https://youtu.be/qA3HQKbb0ZA

Can see balance issues during x-step. By far the hardest thing for me to fix in disc golf is x-step balance lol.

But how does the swing itself look? I've been working on delaying the peak of the reachback.

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[sidewinder22]

Swing looks good.

Your footwork is screwy going into x-step, right foot/knee turned back/in, instead of feet/knees pointed out from each other like ballerina.

First right foot step needs to point targetward around 45-70 degrees from target. Your right foot is pointed closer to 145 so it's pointed around 90 degrees further back away and you push off right foot backwards into a longer x-step with pelvis already turned back really far and tips your balance back. You should feel your x-step with left foot pulling your pelvis closed.

It might feel like the left foot steps deeper toward right tee side when you fix the first right foot step. And your plant/stance might feel open.

[NoseDownKing]

Originally Posted by sidewinder22

Swing looks good.



Your footwork is screwy going into x-step, right foot/knee turned back/in, instead of feet/knees pointed out from each other like ballerina.



First right foot step needs to point targetward around 45-70 degrees from target. Your right foot is pointed closer to 145 so it's pointed around 90 degrees further back away and you push off right foot backwards into a longer x-step with pelvis already turned back really far and tips your balance back. You should feel your x-step with left foot pulling your pelvis closed.



It might feel like the left foot steps deeper toward right tee side when you fix the first right foot step. And your plant/stance might feel open.

So I come into the x-step open and use my rear leg to kick my hips back?

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[sidewinder22]

Originally Posted by NoseDownKing

So I come into the x-step open and use my rear leg to kick my hips back?

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Pelvis should be staggered closed with first right foot step and then turn further back with left foot cross step.

[NoseDownKing]

Originally Posted by sidewinder22

Pelvis should be staggered closed with first right foot step and then turn further back with left foot cross step.

Yea. I figured that while going through the motion without a disc. If I have the pelvis open going on the right foot, I don't have any room to cross my left foot.

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[NoseDownKing]

https://youtu.be/fzh7wklI8iI

Is the x-step better now? I wasn't throwing as hard as yesterday, since I wanted to focus on having the right feel for the x-step. The x-step looks kind of like Lizotte's?

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[sidewinder22]

Still too backwards. Making a backwards move instead of lateral move. Slow down and swing/kick the leg, don't step/bicycle backwards. Lag your foot behind your knee.

[FulaFirren]

I feel like it’s more about moving sideways, than really thinking about turning the hips. In fact I don’t like thinking about what the hips are doing at all. Maybe you’re trying to turn away and that’s why you end up a bit backwards. Trying to force your body to move in a certain way while your brain is convinced you’re trying to do something else never works, so thinking about exactly how to place your feet I don’t think is the play. Maybe try to just think “sideways throw” or even try a Ulibarri side shuffle where the feet never cross could be something to experiment with.

[NoseDownKing]

https://youtu.be/Y_qJCV0j518

(Bad lighting warning)

Feel like my form is pretty good now. Confusing thing is though, that my release velocity hasn't increased at all. It's kind of just stuck at 70-72mph with a putter. This also most likely means, that my distance hasn't improven despite my form getting better.

Maybe I've just been changing and focusing on form too much and now everything is "foreign" to me and I haven't been able to adapt into the new motions at all. Could it be that changing my natural way of moving TOO MUCH is getting in the way of my progress?

I understand form can always be better and there is always room for improvement. But maybe there's a limit to how many changes you can do until your body and mind just can't connect the dots anymore?

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