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Old 04-13-2016, 11:32 PM
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That star eagle could be helpful in the fairway department. Once it beats in you can work a lot of lines with it but keep that dependable fade. It skips well and curves through the trees beautifully. It will be more stable than the rivers but probably more workable than the volt.
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Old 04-13-2016, 11:41 PM
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That star eagle could be helpful in the fairway department. Once it beats in you can work a lot of lines with it but keep that dependable fade. It skips well and curves through the trees beautifully. It will be more stable than the rivers but probably more workable than the volt.
I have star eagle and I just cant seem to get a good feel for this thing. It just doesnt feel good in the hand and i think its because its pretty domey. Its pretty OS compared to other eagles Ive thrown. I had a 12x grippy opaque champion eagle that I loved but traded it. I'll keep working with it in the field, maybe I'll figure it out. For right now though, I throw mostly unfavorable shots with it. I also just got a Rival that Ill be working with as well.
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Old 04-19-2016, 10:07 PM
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The tournament was fun, but I played horribly. I need to slow down when playing casually. Ive come to play best when playing quickly. The pace of play in tournaments is substantially slower and it greatly effected my mental game. Got into some trouble on a couple holes that I just couldnt get out of. That said, I was quite pleased with my bag. I found a use for just about all the discs over the course of the two rounds. I went back to my home course tonight for a change. I've played better, but I still played well. After tonights round Im still happy with my set up.

Putters:
McPro Aviar (2) - main putters
VIP Shield - driving putter and approach
ESP Zone - FH approach shots. FH flex shot on hole 3 off the tee.

Mids:
TP Tursas - beat for flip up turnovers. This went back in for the home course.
McPro Roc3 - straight shots, gradual forward left fade (if any). great for tunnel shots.
Champ Roc3
BT Hard Harp - I might take this out actually. I havent used it and Im not when I would.
Opto Trident - tweener disc for me. Was throwing great short FH fairway and midrange shots tonight. This disc I FH best of all my discs.

Fairways:
GL River, 161g - starting to turn more. starting to more closely fly like my underworld.
GL River, 167g, domey - straight flight, little fade. Great for sweeping annys
Fission Volt - straight to fade. A slightly more stable TL with a healthier fade.
Opto XXX - utility shots
The Seer is out. It flies the same as my light River most of the time. Other times it turns and burns or stays straight. I love it when its straight, but I dont trust it.
I also tried out a Patriot tonight. Absolutely loved it. Ill be working with the Patriot, Leopard3 and my new Underworld to see what I like best. The Rivers, all tho very similar, are much more glidey. The glide comes in handy for me, but Id like to have something with a similar flight and less fade for when the situation calls for it.



Drivers:
Pro Valkyrie - beat, turnovers, hyzerflips - started practicing rollers with this.
Sandstrom Valkyrie - still fairly stable, straight to fade, tight S lines when I rip it.
GL Saint Pro - stable enough to handle some wind, little fade when throw clean and hard.
-I have three other Saint Pros I would like to start working into a rotation.
Champ Thunderbird - OS drives, hyzers, windy drives that make the SP a bit squirrely.
Ive been getting good D with the Valkyries. I'll keep using the Mamba and Beasts in the field, as well as my new Northman. Im constantly working on form so itll be a good test to see if Im adding distance. When I do, Ill go from there. Also been fondling my Saints again... oh the struggle lol.
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Old 04-19-2016, 11:16 PM
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Like the bag. The double river is a nice setup. Always feels nice to grab a disc and the rim feels the same. I myself run 4-5 wraiths covering different stability's. keep it up the bag doesn't look too overlapping.
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Old 04-20-2016, 12:25 AM
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Like the bag. The double river is a nice setup. Always feels nice to grab a disc and the rim feels the same. I myself run 4-5 wraiths covering different stability's. keep it up the bag doesn't look too overlapping.
Thanks. For once, I dont have much overlap at all. That has always been an issue for me and Ive finally got it down to just determining what molds work for me, what doesnt, and where I can tweak things to fine tune my setup. My fairway setup works as best as I can make it right now, but I would like to get it down to two or three molds (not counting utility discs like the XXX). As always, finding what molds work tends to mean new molds being sprinkled in along the way.
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Yeah I wouldn't count the xxx (firebird in my case) as a fairway. Its just such a unique disc. As for farways I don't think you have that bad of a setup. understable/neutral = river neutral with finish being the volt. Thunderbird will cover the stable slot in your farways.

Maybe try a glow river to beat out the volt. Then its just the same disc in a good easy cycle.


Don't think you have to worry too much
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Old 05-24-2016, 03:22 PM
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Yeah I wouldn't count the xxx (firebird in my case) as a fairway. Its just such a unique disc. As for farways I don't think you have that bad of a setup. understable/neutral = river neutral with finish being the volt. Thunderbird will cover the stable slot in your farways.

Maybe try a glow river to beat out the volt. Then its just the same disc in a good easy cycle.


Don't think you have to worry too much
Im not seeing this post until now! I never thought about grabbing a glow River, but I think I will and see how it flies. I've actually restructured my mids because I've been playing more at Flat Rock and didnt need the glide of the River. What I have now works at my home course pretty well, but I will not be ruling out the River set up at other courses where the neutral flight and glide will help. I can say that I've realized that the two GL Rivers are a bit redundant. Im going to try swapping the more neutral one for an Opto.

Current bag structure to follow...
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Old 05-24-2016, 04:00 PM
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Putters:
McPro Aviar (2) - main putters
VIP Shield - lost! trying to stick with whats in my bins and not buy more, I might try my Ion in this slot or BT Hard Shield...Or KC Aviar
ESP Zone

Mids:
TP Tursas
McPro Roc3
Champ Roc3
DX Roc3 (2) - One fresh, one a little used. Both a bit more OS than the McPro, less than the Champ. Workhorse mid.
Opto Trident

Fairways:
Icon Patriot
GL River, 167g, domey - straight flight, little fade. Great for sweeping annys and tunnel shots
Icon Rival I still dont want to accept this as true, but the Rival is what I want my Teebirds to be. Granted my Teebirds are JL so they're more OS that what Im used to or what I want in a TB. But the Icon plastic makes this Rival so sweet for me.
PFN Star Eagle more OS than the Rival. Starts its fade earlier and finishes more left.
Opto XXX THUMBERS

[i]Fission Volt is out - the Rival & Saint Pro covers the same shots more consistently.

Drivers:
Pro Valkyrie
Sandstrom Valkyrie
GL Saint Pro
-I have three other Saint Pros I would like to start working into a rotation.
Champ Thunderbird
I have put the Champ ThBd in on the bench while I have two DXs in the bag. I want to work those in for a bit before putting a champ back.

As my luck would have it, just as I start to really love the Patriot, I get a message saying that my Underworld was found and dropped in the L&F! Time to put this up against each other once and for all. I've got two of each, a field next door to throw in, and nothing but rain for next few days.

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Putters:
Zero Pure (2) - putting - 1 medium, 1 hard
BT Hard Shield - drives and approach

Mids:
TP Tursas
McPro Roc3
Champ Roc3
DX Roc3 (1) The McPro and the fresh DX were too redundant. Pulled one DX while this one beats in.
Opto Trident

Fairways:
Icon Patriot
GL River, 167g, domey - may ditch this for a while and just roll with the Patriot. See if it cant do the same things.
Icon Rival still absolute $$$
PFN Star Eagle more OS than the Rival. Starts its fade earlier and finishes more left.
Opto XXX THUMBERS, other specialty shots



Drivers:
Pro Valkyrie
Sandstrom Valkyrie
GL Saint Pro
DX Thunderbird
Star Tern - max D
G* Tern - surprisingly a less US than the star

Just dropped the Terns in the bag. I was playing around in the field and found the G* in the bin. Gave it a toss and set a new distance PR. Only about 350 or so but still, which doesnt seem like I should be using a speed 12 driver, but I throw it farther than the Valkyrie, and even farther than other speed 10-11 discs I've tried. Now that my form and power has improved though, im going to go back to the 10-11 speed discs and see what they do for me now. Ive seen other with not much D, mention the Tern is surprisingly useful for them though. I can say for a fact, I throw it farther than the Mamba. Partially because it feels better in my hand I think. Not a fan of the way a Mamba feels.
Other updates - sold the Zone. Love the Zone, but wanted to cut back a bit, and I've found that when I go with the Zone, theres usually another route I can take with another disc. Im still undecided whether or not I want to rock the Patriot or the Underworld though. Im going start carrying both I think, and throw both on the shots I would usually use the Patriot for.
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Heck, I'll trade you for that dropped River . Sorry I flaked on the Leo3 BTW, I was running a couple of other sales as well.
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