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Old 04-27-2021, 04:23 PM
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I think the players getting essentially no practice on this course has a lot to do with it. These other venues they have mostly played before, know the lines, know where trouble is, etc. Its the opposite of the local player who does well in the big event held at their local course, but poorly elsewhere.

Knowing a course inside and out is a big advantage. The first couple of tourneys at Idlewild, -10 was a great score, for the tourney. But after playing it several times, now it's merely a great score for a round.
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Old 04-28-2021, 07:23 AM
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I agree with all of this. Philo's term for the frequent result was “ninja branches”.

But, I’ll go back again to the hole #9 example. It's only 204 feet. It’s a very wide tunnel leading to an open field with basically one tree between you and the basket, and one branch across essentially creating a very generous triple mando. Yeah, there is some OB long, but there is a fair amount in the way long, too.

You would think the pros would absolutely shred this hole, but 3rd round it averages only a 2.6. 22% of the field missed c2. Only 16% of the field parked it. Something about how the hole played, forcing a lower shot, slightly downhill into a slight uphill near the basket, into long enough grass to prevent a skip all made what should be an easy putter way more difficult than one would expect. I seem to recall that putter wasn’t even the most common play?

ETA: or look at hole 15, 300 ft, almost literally impossible to park, only 13% c1.

Like I said, just kinda awkward.
Sounds like good hole design to me.
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Old 04-28-2021, 07:35 AM
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Knowing a course inside and out is a big advantage.
Doesn't seem to help me.

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Old 04-28-2021, 11:00 AM
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I played the tournament setup last night at Oakland with the exception that they were switching out the tournament baskets back to the regular older baskets. I shot +3, so I can conclude that the only difference between me and the average pro is power, accuracy, overall ability to execute shots, and putting.

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Old 04-28-2021, 04:12 PM
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Doesn't seem to help me.
Me: knows every tree, root, and stump on our local.
Also me: randomly slams first available and takes a 5 on a 220’ hole.
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...so I can conclude that the only difference between me and the average pro is power, accuracy, overall ability to execute shots, and putting.
On the bright side, you carry your bag, place your mini, and keep your score, as well as any pro on the tour.

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