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*Does math*

McBeth made $28.25 less in 2019 when compared to 2018. This just proves that Innova plastic is superior to Discraft.
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Old 11-21-2019, 02:18 PM
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What does it cost for the average top pro to tour for a season?

I'm just curious because it would seem like that's a business expense that would come right off the bottom line of their salary.

Or is that taken care of by their sponsors on top of their salaries?
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But again, this is JUST tournament winnings. .

Paul has $57000 in winnings in 2019. .but he has a $250000 salery on top of that.

Then add disc sales and bonuses . . so he has WAY over $350 000 a year total

But even if Paul is better payed than other discgolfer we still have quite a few that makes over $100 000 total every year. . .thats not bad for a "small" sport like Discgolf
$250k salary. You don't think discraft might be getting their investment back first (in sales, touring money, etc) before he starts getting bonuses from disc sales, tournament winnings etc? If he DID negotiate a deal where he gets a guaranteed 250k per year plus he gets to keep all his tour winnings, immediate residuals from disc sales, etc, seriously...forget 250k a year, he's making some very serious money then.
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McBeth made $28.25 less in 2019 when compared to 2018. This just proves that Innova plastic is superior to Discraft.
Do the math again.

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Old 11-21-2019, 04:02 PM
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What does it cost for the average top pro to tour for a season?

I'm just curious because it would seem like that's a business expense that would come right off the bottom line of their salary.

Or is that taken care of by their sponsors on top of their salaries?
It's probably a cost the individual incurs and can write off for tax purposes.

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Old 11-21-2019, 04:06 PM
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$250k salary. You don't think discraft might be getting their investment back first (in sales, touring money, etc) before he starts getting bonuses from disc sales, tournament winnings etc? If he DID negotiate a deal where he gets a guaranteed 250k per year plus he gets to keep all his tour winnings, immediate residuals from disc sales, etc, seriously...forget 250k a year, he's making some very serious money then.
As far as i remember he said that the $250000 a year for 4y was a fixed salary. . then he had bonuses, disc sales and expenses payed. . .and the winnings on top of that

He made a joke 6month in to his contract that Discraft was kind of worried in the beginning . . NOT anymore

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Old 11-21-2019, 10:36 PM
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Could be worse.

I was really into BMX growing up. By the early 90s, the established freestyle contest series had ended and most manufacturers had folded or stopped actively supporting the sport. It was kept alive by a few pros who ran their own diy contest series (and bike companies). The Bicycle Stunt series, run by Mat Hoffman, was the biggest of those. He was the top vert rider, ran the main (only) contest series, and had a bike company that sponsored other riders.

In 92 or 93, there were 4 BS contests in a year and the top pro finisher got like $400 for winning a contest in a particular discipline. Best case scenario, someone sweeps street, vert, mini and flatland at a contest and takes home $1600. I doubt anyone ever took all four even though the pro fields were tiny. Flatland is/was too specialized and not every contest had both street and mini ramp. There was next to no money to be made from contest winnings and I doubt most riders were getting much cash from their sponsers. Compensation largely came in the form of free bikes/parts and a ride to the contests in a van stuffed with the full team.

Once the X games came around, that all changed, but the guys doing it in the early 90s were solely in it for the love of it.

Disc golf is undoubtedly bigger than freestyle BMX was in the early 90s, but it's still a niche sport (especially the non-casual side of the sport). Touring disc golf is probably still more of a hobby than a career for all but a small minority, but it could be (and was in the 90s, per Discette's post) much worse money wise.

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Seems to contradict that female disc golfers can't bring in as much as the males with 3 in the top 20 for two years straight, and Paige climbing up the top 10 each year.

MPO may get more views on YouTube but I'd wager these three FPO didn't play many more, if any more, events than the men to somehow add to their totals.
Page Pierce played in the USDGC this year and last year one event more then most of the other females have done.
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Could be worse.

I was really into BMX growing up. By the early 90s, the established freestyle contest series had ended and most manufacturers had folded or stopped actively supporting the sport. It was kept alive by a few pros who ran their own diy contest series (and bike companies). The Bicycle Stunt series, run by Mat Hoffman, was the biggest of those. He was the top vert rider, ran the main (only) contest series, and had a bike company that sponsored other riders.

In 92 or 93, there were 4 BS contests in a year and the top pro finisher got like $400 for winning a contest in a particular discipline. Best case scenario, someone sweeps street, vert, mini and flatland at a contest and takes home $1600. I doubt anyone ever took all four even though the pro fields were tiny. Flatland is/was too specialized and not every contest had both street and mini ramp. There was next to no money to be made from contest winnings and I doubt most riders were getting much cash from their sponsers. Compensation largely came in the form of free bikes/parts and a ride to the contests in a van stuffed with the full team.

Once the X games came around, that all changed, but the guys doing it in the early 90s were solely in it for the love of it.

Disc golf is undoubtedly bigger than freestyle BMX was in the early 90s, but it's still a niche sport (especially the non-casual side of the sport). Touring disc golf is probably still more of a hobby than a career for all but a small minority, but it could be (and was in the 90s, per Discette's post) much worse money wise.
Same thing with Ultimate in the 1990's, since no formal or official league other then UPA and USA Ultimate that are more a governing body rather then a league for the sport were out. It was hard for teams to get started and stay togther to play Ultimate outside of certain Universities and Collages or two even make money, the Pro Ultimate players in event money often made less then the Disc Golf Pros of the 1990's. It was not until 2012, that the MLU folding in 2016 and the current league AUDL you see on TV in the USA were starting up using the UPA governing body rules except adding a referees to every event expanding the field to USA Football size with larger end zones for the sport and allowing double teaming.

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But it makes you wonder how many discs Discraft need to sell just to pay their Team players

Discraft gets $6-$12.5 for their discs. . .and have big expenses for staff, warehouses and manufacturing cost
I mean the CryZtal LUNA was a 5000pc run that Discraft got $12,5 for. .and even if they had $4-5 profit of that disc..thats "only" $20000-25000 . . .and thats Pauls salary for a month!

And 100 000 Disc with $2,5 profit a year just to cover Paul. . .and they have 11 more players on the Elite Team that they need to pay
They need to sell ALOT of discs just to pay that ELITE TEAMs wages
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