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Just as an update, I went stopped by the local Dynamic Discs and picked up an assortment of putters off the used rack (Opto Mercy, Prime Warden, Classic Blend Judge, Star Aviar3 and Champion Aviar--all in the 174-176g range except for the Aviar which is 167g). Been watching some YouTube videos on technique, but as it's been raining nonstop here just out to the park to throw them around for the first time today.

Went pretty well I think...was starting to get more of a feel for it by the end. I was throwing them pretty consistently in the 170-185ft range (as measured by my rangefinder) and was actually pleasantly surprised by the degree of accuracy I had. It was really damp there and I stupidly didn't bring a towel, so the discs being a bit wet probably hurt me a bit, but by and large I felt it went about as well as could be expected for my first real time throwing with any idea of what I was supposed to be doing.

With that said, what would be the advice as to how to keep progressing? I'm planning to just keep throwing around these putters a bit more until I have a bit more command over the flight, but not sure when I should start adding some midranges and fairway drivers into the mix. Would you guys wait until I'm able to reach some distance threshold (e.g. 250' with the putter), or just until I feel a bit more comfortable throwing?

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Old 03-15-2020, 09:53 PM
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I wouldn't put a distance on it unless you really enjoy fieldwork. I would suggest that if you can throw a neutral stability disc fairly straight and let the disc do its thing more times than not... then go up and do the same thing for a mid-range. The mid-range should go farther.

Once you get to speed 7 and higher [what I consider a fairway driver], they will tend to have more turn/fade. I don't know of any disc in this speed that has a number system of [7 | 5 | 0 | 0 ] to basically indicate they should fly straight and not really fade. They are more like... [7 | 5 | -1 | 2], so they are going to go left and right more.

I believe that if you can throw a neutral disc in a "straight" path, then rest [hyzers and anhyzer] is a lot easier to learn. Plus, there is a big difference in throwing discs in an open field [assuming that's what you are doing] and throwing on a course with natural objects.

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Old 03-18-2020, 03:17 AM
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I agree it is almost impossible to find a disc with [6 or 7|5|0|0] as faster discs it is hard to find that shot but the ones below are close.

A disc at [6|5|-1|1] is the Zombie from Discraft. But the mold is so close to a Buzz that it is not worth getting if you use the Buzz.

A TL [7|5|-1|1] or TL3 [8|5|-1|1] from Innova are good discs to start with for nearly neutral. The 3 is a just flat top of a disc from the Innova line though some like the Shark/Shark 3, the Shark 3 is like a different disc from the Shark.
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Fwiw... I have no idea what your long term intentions with the sport is (social casual, competitive am/pro, etc) but consider just buying 3 (or more!) of the same putter (something stable, not under or over stable) and just spend a couple of months throwing nothing but those putters. Learn how to throw them level, flat, straight, etc, and try to get them out to 150,200,250+ ft. It will do wonders early on to help you dial in your form, consistency, etc. Then start introducing mids, fairways, drivers, etc. Good luck! (btw...DFW is blessed with so much disc golf it's insane. DD in Carrollton is a great starting point because they run quite a few local minis, tournaments, etc.)
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Fwiw... I have no idea what your long term intentions with the sport is (social casual, competitive am/pro, etc) but consider just buying 3 (or more!) of the same putter (something stable, not under or over stable) and just spend a couple of months throwing nothing but those putters. Learn how to throw them level, flat, straight, etc, and try to get them out to 150,200,250+ ft. It will do wonders early on to help you dial in your form, consistency, etc. Then start introducing mids, fairways, drivers, etc. Good luck! (btw...DFW is blessed with so much disc golf it's insane. DD in Carrollton is a great starting point because they run quite a few local minis, tournaments, etc.)
Kinda what I had in mind. Just trying to figure out what I like right now--of the ones I bought to try out I think I prefer the Aviar3 and the Judge with the Mercy being my least favorite (think I prefer them feeling flat and not talk and "domey"). I didn't think I'd find a huge difference in my preference on the plastics but I really prefer the Star and Fuzion and really cannot stand the Prime (do much so I don't even know if I like the Warden mold because I can't stand the plastic so much). The Champion and Lucid are fine but feel a bit slick somehow. I do like the classic blend in the Judge and it's cheap enough, so maybe I'll just pick up 3-5 of those and start throwing them around...can always change at some point down the line!

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I agree it is almost impossible to find a disc with [6 or 7|5|0|0] as faster discs it is hard to find that shot but the ones below are close.

A disc at [6|5|-1|1] is the Zombie from Discraft. But the mold is so close to a Buzz that it is not worth getting if you use the Buzz.

A TL [7|5|-1|1] or TL3 [8|5|-1|1] from Innova are good discs to start with for nearly neutral. The 3 is a just flat top of a disc from the Innova line though some like the Shark/Shark 3, the Shark 3 is like a different disc from the Shark.
Eyeing the TL or TL3 as my first fairway driver when I get to the point that I want/need something in the 7/8 speed range. Given how much I like the feel of the shallow depth and flat top of the Aviar3, I'm thinking the TL3 may be the way to go there, but I'll go feel them out and see what feels right.
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Kinda what I had in mind. Just trying to figure out what I like right now--of the ones I bought to try out I think I prefer the Aviar3 and the Judge with the Mercy being my least favorite (think I prefer them feeling flat and not talk and "domey"). I didn't think I'd find a huge difference in my preference on the plastics but I really prefer the Star and Fuzion and really cannot stand the Prime (do much so I don't even know if I like the Warden mold because I can't stand the plastic so much). The Champion and Lucid are fine but feel a bit slick somehow. I do like the classic blend in the Judge and it's cheap enough, so maybe I'll just pick up 3-5 of those and start throwing them around...can always change at some point down the line!
The plastics do make a difference... mainly in grip, but they can affect the flight of it a little bit. Some make the disc a bit more overstable than others. The Judge [beaded] and the Warden [no bead] are basically the same disc, the difference being the bead or lack of one.

I wanted to buy a Opto Warden at a Dynamic Disc two disc challenge, but ended up "settling" for a Classic Blend. Now it's my favorite putter and I have 6 of them [original + a putter pack].

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The Judge [beaded] and the Warden [no bead] are basically the same disc, the difference being the bead or lack of one.
That's what I thought going in, which is why I was dumbfounded when I started throwing them how much more I liked the Judge than the Warden that I bought. I do just think it boils down to really preferring the feel of the Classic Blend to the Prime plastic though, although somehow the Judge also seems to have a slightly lower profile but that may be because of how my fingers grip around the rim due to the shape of the bead.

My best (longest-straightest) throws still seem to come from the Star Aviar3 though, which is a bit counterintuitive though since of the putters I bought that one is the highest speed (3), lowest glide (2) and most theoretically most overstable (0,2) I realize you can't compare between brands on a 1:1 basis clearly, but still seems as a rank beginner I'd have more trouble that than say the Warden (which most describe as slow and super straight). Go figure.
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That's what I thought going in, which is why I was dumbfounded when I started throwing them how much more I liked the Judge than the Warden that I bought. I do just think it boils down to really preferring the feel of the Classic Blend to the Prime plastic though, although somehow the Judge also seems to have a slightly lower profile but that may be because of how my fingers grip around the rim due to the shape of the bead.

My best (longest-straightest) throws still seem to come from the Star Aviar3 though, which is a bit counterintuitive though since of the putters I bought that one is the highest speed (3), lowest glide (2) and most theoretically most overstable (0,2)… I realize you can't compare between brands on a 1:1 basis clearly, but still seems as a rank beginner I'd have more trouble that than say the Warden (which most describe as slow and super straight). Go figure.
Nope the Innova Pig is the most OS and one of the fastest putters, wait that is the RDG Stego is the most OS but that has too much OS for anybody and most who do actually have it in the bag usie the Stego for the boomerang shot around an obstacle on the course.

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Nope the Innova Pig is the most OS and one of the fastest putters, wait that is the RDG Stego is the most OS but that has too much OS for anybody and most who do actually have it in the bag usie the Stego for the boomerang shot around an obstacle on the course.
Ha yes I won't be throwing a Pig or Stego anytime soon. I didn't mean that the Aviar3 is the most OS out there, I meant of the 5 putters I bought (Av, Av3, Judge, Warden, Mercy), it's theoretically the most OS with the least amount of glide.

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