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Old 06-27-2018, 09:29 AM
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I agree with what everyone has said.

I bag the Envy and i dont compare it to, or use it as a putter, its a great mid-range for me. Lower glide and reliable fade make it easy to range for approach and shorter midrange drives, powered up its great for in the woods, shorter tunnel shots.

Ion has always been my putter from the beginning, just added a firm electron but its slightly different from my old Ions. Its been so long i honestly cant remember the differences but i know i used to throw wizards before the Ion, and for a while i threw Legacy Prowlers, but i came back to my Ions wanting
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Old 06-27-2018, 10:13 AM
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No one is going to warn him about the curved inner rims?

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Old 06-27-2018, 10:18 AM
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No one is going to warn him about the curved inner rims?
I fan grip all my putter shots so its never been something I've noticed.
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Old 06-27-2018, 10:57 AM
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No one is going to warn him about the curved inner rims?
Slowplastic mentioned it.


It seems like guys here pair up the Envy and Proxy. Or the Ion and Anode. I guess I was mostly curious about how the Ion(or Atom) compare to the Envy, which I have thrown, and how the Anode compares to the Proxy, which I can imagine how it must fly.
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Old 06-27-2018, 11:01 AM
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No one is going to warn him about the curved inner rims?
I did in the first post I made, easy to skim over in the wall of text.

It took me a couple weeks to get used to it on BH shots, and a month or more for FH although I was learning those at the time. You will get used to it even if you don't like it immediately. That's the Ion/Anode that have a curve, and not on the lower profile driving putters I'm pretty sure.
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Old 06-27-2018, 11:13 AM
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to me the Ion is slower, and shorter, but flies similar line to the Envy. The Atom is just as fast and goes a little farther then the Envy for me because it has less HSS, but it has fade at the end of its flight.
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On the curved inner rim, is it similar to the Gateway mid's curved inner rim?

I've always had some sort of interest the Ion/Anode, I just never pulled the trigger. But I haven't bought a disc in a year and I'm getting antsy.

How deep is the Ion compared to a Wizard? For some reason I never could flick a Wizard. Every other putter I've used is fine, just not the Wizard.
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Old 06-27-2018, 01:44 PM
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On the curved inner rim, is it similar to the Gateway mid's curved inner rim?

I've always had some sort of interest the Ion/Anode, I just never pulled the trigger. But I haven't bought a disc in a year and I'm getting antsy.

How deep is the Ion compared to a Wizard? For some reason I never could flick a Wizard. Every other putter I've used is fine, just not the Wizard.
Never thrown Gateway mids. But here is a cross section from MVP. Ion/Anode are basically the same feel to me.

Wizard I think feels shallower in a FH grip because of the normal inner rim, but in a putting grip they are the same depth basically. If you can't flick a Wizard you may not like flicking the Ion either. The key to me was ignoring the depth and curve, and setting my fingers up at the bottom of the disc like I would with a driver...just with a driver they are shallow enough that you end up resting against the flight plate too. If you get all the way to the curve and flight plate on the putters you may be way too deep and that can result in a lot more flutter.

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Old 06-27-2018, 01:51 PM
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On the curved inner rim, is it similar to the Gateway mid's curved inner rim?

I've always had some sort of interest the Ion/Anode, I just never pulled the trigger. But I haven't bought a disc in a year and I'm getting antsy.

How deep is the Ion compared to a Wizard? For some reason I never could flick a Wizard. Every other putter I've used is fine, just not the Wizard.
I haven't thrown any Gateway mids, but I don't think the rim on the Ion should bother you unless you power grip your putters. I will warn you that the Ion is pretty deep, and it doesn't handle a sloppy forehand throw well. I do occasionally forehand mine, but I don't try to stretch it out for that much distance because the second you get any off axis torque on it, the Ion becomes very unpredictable. The forehands that the Ion is good for are those utility forehand shots where you just want to lean out of a bush and get over or around something so you put it on a steep angle (either hyzer or anhyzer) to curve around the obstacle. But if you're trying to throw an Ion far, definitely stick to the backhand because that is its forte.
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Old 06-27-2018, 05:08 PM
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I'm really not sure what the issue was with forehanding Wizards. I can do it with Polecats, Putt'rs, and ultimate discs. Voodoos, BB Aviars, fine. Wizards, nope. Something about it gets caught on my hand that apparently no other disc has.

But. That inside rim looks fine to me. I'll probably pick up a soft Anode soon.

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