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Old 01-16-2019, 01:54 AM
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Two of my buddies are avid ball golfers that golf usually every weekend. They have a combined maybe 3 rounds of DG between them (zero for one guy). Another buddy and I are disc golfers primarily and mediocre at best at golf (I'm effing terrible honestly). We're constantly trying to figure out some combined score format that would kind of equal out the odds of which team would win.

The golfers shoot typically in the 80s-90s per an 18 I think. I'm happy to keep a hole under 10. I don't know about my DG buddy's BG skill but I doubt he could be worse than me. The course we'd play would most definitely be a country course that's really easy by golf standards b/c that's all we've got around here.

Disc golf-wise, I'm probably a better disc golfer than they're ball golfers. I'm probably Intermediate but if competition was my sole focus I could probably go Advanced. I'm expected to play advanced/open by area locals and I've been holding my own there lately (not the biggest tourneys though). My buddy is an honest Rec. player but not bad, can play Int. golf on a good day.

Now, I figure the golfers have the advantage b/c simply golf is harder than disc golf. And combined they're probably better ball golfers than my buddy and I are disc golfers (debatable). The longest, toughest, wooded course is probably the only thing that might help team disc golf (the ball golfers both have Eagle McMahon builds and mechanic grip strength so they might figure out distance on an open DG course).

Any thoughts? Combined score, capt. choice, mulligans, or any other handicapping feature that might level the playing field?
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Old 01-16-2019, 03:17 AM
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You can manipulate the rules or manipulate the scoring. If you want to manipulate the rules I would play best shot for your bad sport and worst shot for your better sport. Should even things out significantly. If you want to help out on the scoring side, play where pars give a point, birdies 2, eagles 3 and so on. Your golf buddies are probably 30 stokes better than you at ball golf, but how many pars or better are they gonna shoot in a round? A 80 player is probably getting a dozen points with this game, which you can easily put up on the disc golf side without any problems.

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Old 01-16-2019, 03:26 AM
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I've always thought 18 holes ball golf about equals 27 holes disc golf deuce or die.
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Old 01-16-2019, 08:52 AM
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I don't think you can come up with a formula, without knowing what everyone's average scores are in both sports.

You might try some sort of accumulated match play, which would reward holes won, but now how much they were won by. I suspect it would still favor the golfers, but at least the entire contest wouldn't be blown up by a double-digit score on a golf hole.

If you've got a really challenging disc golf course available to you, that might help too. Newer disc golfers can really get eaten up on championship-level courses.
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Old 01-16-2019, 08:55 AM
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…..Or, handicap the results, in a way. Start with a random formula, such as multiplying disc golf score by 1.5. If you win, reduce that for the next match; if you lose, increase it. Eventually you'll get to something that works.
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I would play best shot for your bad sport and worst shot for your better sport. Should even things out significantly.
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I really don't like playing with handicaps. I feel outside of gambling, it has no place in golf.(highly subjective statement, I know)

I do like the above proposed scoring method if doubles is played. It not perfect, but it's simple.

If singles are played, I would drop Stoke Play and do Match Play for both sports. It's more fair to combined sport skill, speeds up play and usually makes for a more exciting experience.

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On the ball golf course, the disc golfers play scramble format (commonly called best shot). Meanwhile the ball golfers each play their own ball and average their scores. You'd be amazed how much this evens out the scores when pairing a couple of hacks but giving the intermediate golfers no relief from penalty strokes, missed gimmies, etc. Both teams will probably both shoot roughly bogey golf.

On the disc golf course, the ball golfers play best shot doubles. The disc golfers play worst shot doubles. Depending on how tough the course is this also could get both teams to roughly the same score.

So, not only can you get the overall competition to be fairly equal, but playing this format should actually make each individual round competitive.

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Old 01-16-2019, 01:35 PM
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Depending on how terrible you are at golf, I would expect double bogeys pretty often and bogeys as "good". Whereas for non experienced disc golfers I would moreso expect bogeys to be normal and pars to be good, pars being pretty achievable for best shot doubles on "normal" recreation length courses.

I think the suggestion for best shot and worst shot for each pair depending on the sport sounds great. Keeps it simple, and you can find out afterwards if the scores should have been handicapped too. Maybe for worst shot doubles in golf, once you're on the green only one ball needs to go in...I'm not sure how worst shot doubles usually works for putting?
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I'm pretty stoked about double bogeys to be honest.

I think if we ever do this, we're gonna play Capt's Choice and use scores relative to par to determine the winner. If my partner and I play some good DG and get some throw-ins we might be able to make it close. I'm not sure Capt's Choice would really benefit the ball golfers as much as it potentially could us.
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I've always thought 18 holes ball golf about equals 27 holes disc golf deuce or die.
from the bg/dg courses around without any real thought just a YUP.. this actually seems to be pretty close considering tee times etc and we don't even come to contact play each other at all in most rounds.

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