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Old 11-30-2018, 11:30 AM
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...All it takes is one group of players trampling snow on the tee pad to cause it to ice up...
Exactly the reason I always shovel my driveway when it snows, before pulling my truck out of the garage.
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Old 11-30-2018, 11:52 AM
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The key when using any sort of ice melt on a tee pad is to sweep it all off once it's melted. In fact, the key to getting a completely clear and bone dry tee pad after a snow is to not just shovel, but sweep the pad as well.

Also, ice cleats on tees is a bad practice in general. Scratching up concrete is just as bad for it as the chemical ice melts. I'd rather use the melt and sweep off the residue than have players pivoting on metal cleats and digging into the pad.

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Old 11-30-2018, 11:57 AM
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One thing I always preach is if people are going to clear tee-pads of snow, don't use rock salt! It will break down the concrete. Shovels - good; salt - bad.
The other thing about the salt is, the tee never seems to get totally dry because the salt residue attracts more moisture from the air. Then if it gets really cold, below the temp that the salt will work, you have invisible thin coating of black ice, and the tee is unusable.

Some people never witness that black ice effect because it's gone by the time they come out in the afternoon, but I like to play early in the morning so I see this a lot on salted pads.

Oddly, some people seem to prefer carrying rock salt around the course which is arguably harder work than shoveling. Makes no sense to me
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Old 11-30-2018, 12:00 PM
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No one just works on standstill form?
That's what the rest of the fairway is for. It's good to keep normal tee shots tuned up also.
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Old 11-30-2018, 12:31 PM
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Any kind of ice melt chemical leaves a muddy, sticky, near-frozen gunk that is harder to clean off the pad than pure ice or snow.
Graph or it didn't happen, Steve

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Old 11-30-2018, 12:57 PM
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No one just works on standstill form?
Not really... I am the only one out of the folks I play with. Surprises me that folks don't do this.

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Old 11-30-2018, 04:18 PM
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Not true. All it takes is one group of players trampling snow on the tee pad to cause it to ice up. But that one group isn't going to trample the whole course to the same degree. Maybe there are some icy footprints here and there but generally they should be avoidable.

I could understand first snow fall of the year being one where players don't bother to clear the tees before they play them out of ignorance or what have you. But as the winter goes on, and there's obvious evidence that someone has been shoveling the tees off, players that trample fresh snow on the pad instead of clearing it are lazy and inconsiderate.
Don't get me wrong, I've cleaned off plenty of tee pad with my big ole snow shovel many many times and while it'd be great if everyone did it I certainly don't expect it to be done with any consistency. To me, it's like expecting everyone to put the grocery carts back in the corral, or not talk during movies...Especially some of the crowd that frequents Flaherty Park - egad.

But I've seen plenty of courses with the vast majority of the fairway iced over. Hell to walk on (unless you have spikes) but fun for skip shots.
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Old 11-30-2018, 04:42 PM
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Not really... I am the only one out of the folks I play with. Surprises me that folks don't do this.
Couldn't agree more. Slow, floaty molds and all core? Yes please!

Anyone wear broomball shoes when it gets icy? With the traction they provide at the rink, I can't help but think they'd give you quite an advantage in that weather. Bonus for them being super warm and able to handle 45 minutes of running. Just don't step off the snow/ice with them.
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Old 11-30-2018, 05:18 PM
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is this yet another passive aggressive shot at Jeremy?
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Old 11-30-2018, 06:56 PM
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Or you could just wear ice cleats because if the pads are icy the rest of the course is probably icy as well for the same reason.
I don't think rubber pads and ice cleats get along well.

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