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Old 10-14-2019, 08:10 PM
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the Shark will definitely work for a putter. I sometimes use it for LONG putts, when I need a little curve on it.
I use it for basket attempt approach putts or for most top level pro players is the longer putter shot where they are truly putting as well as longer approach/short midrange shots where I am not putting at the basket but trying to get close to the basket the way majority of other players would with a more OS putter. this is how I use it as well as driving putter slot for most of my shots, windy putter is the other. That is similar to how some Innova sponsored pro players use a Gator/3 or Caiman for approach and windy putts.
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Old 10-14-2019, 09:52 PM
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I would agree with above statements about the Aviar in DX. I have used the Focus in Jawbreaker and while the Jawbreaker felt softer in hand, I feel the Aviar just consistently flies better. I would like to get my hands on a Dart but haven't found one locally to see how it feels in hand.

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Old 10-14-2019, 09:59 PM
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In my very inexperienced opinion, what you putt is way less important than how you putt.

And I agree the deep rim on putters is difficult to get used to. I like the grip on a driver much better, sorry no real help!.


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Old 10-15-2019, 12:53 AM
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I would agree with above statements about the Aviar in DX. I have used the Focus in Jawbreaker and while the Jawbreaker felt softer in hand, I feel the Aviar just consistently flies better. I would like to get my hands on a Dart but haven't found one locally to see how it feels in hand.
Then try a Pro D Focus, my uncle (one who got me started) uses one after his old disc bag with his slightly worn in DX Avair got lost in a house fire. The uncle wanted a broken in Aviar P&A flight but did not want to have to work for that so he got a Pro D Focus, closest to a broken in DX Aviar in terms of flight. He putts better with the Pro D Focus then he did with a Broken in Aviar P&A.

Modern Pro D does get a bad rap but it will be more consistent then Jawbreaker and bonus you do not need to have another putter set for temps over 90-95 F. Trust me, when my Jawbreaker Magnets die I will Keep using my Proline Titanic molds in that spot, simply a Magnet with a nose spacer for a slower Magnet

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Old 10-15-2019, 03:24 AM
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I borrowed a DD Deputy in Classic Blend plastic and loved it. It fit well in my hand and I threw it well. Still need a bunch of practice but it has gone well so far. Thanks for your help
Deputies are nice discs. I love the classic blend plastic too. I putted with classic blend wardens up until this year. I've since switched to JK aviars. I love the grip on these even better. And as others have said DX or KC pro are stiffer plastics for aviars. Darts are great too. It's really all personal preference though.

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Old 10-15-2019, 11:24 AM
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And I agree the deep rim on putters is difficult to get used to. I like the grip on a driver much better, sorry no real help!.
I started off using a straddle push putt that I learned on youtube somewhere when I first started. And I used that technique through various molds (including shark and mako midranges), but I just never really "got it". Then I bought a rattler because it was cheap and I heard you could play catch with it. And it is a deep rim. Like really uncomfortably deep.
Or...was that just in my head because I liked a certain grip? I watched this video and it changed my world:

The ease at which he just chucked the rattler into the basket was alluring. I bought several more and swore by them. I embraced my oddball serpents. Until...
The wind.
Wind ruined all of the progress I had made in putting. I had really started to feel good about lofting my putts with that technique, but realized the drawback of floating a putt, so I learned a new style that blends spin and push putting and with that style, the rattler was no longer comfortable in hand and I switched back to the challenger which is deeper than a roach, less so than a rattler, and a disc that I absolutely do not like throwing, but at the same time, I love putting with it.
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Old 10-15-2019, 11:51 AM
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Or...was that just in my head because I liked a certain grip? I watched this video and it changed my world:
Notice how he putts right handed with left left forward. The only other putter I know that does this is Nikko, and for Nikko he has a straddle setup making the left leg forward much less exaggerated.

This stance makes it nearly impossible to fly open on the right side. When you do the weight shift onto your left foot, your body wants to counterbalance by moving your right shoulder forward, causing the chest to hinge to the left of the basket. It is a reversal of the usual shoulder dynamics of a putt.

I have messed around with left-foot-forward putting a bit, mainly because I ALWAYS miss wide right and it corrects that problem 100% of the time. The downside is that you must throw with hyzer to get any power. The video you posted with rattlers makes sense to me. If you have to throw with hyzer to get any power, it makes sense to use an understable disc to get as straight a hyzer throw as possible. The other alternative is a fast putter so you can get to the basket before it breaks left.

After messing around with left-foot-forward I would not recommend that a new disc golfer start with that stance. It forces a lot of loft on longer putts, and the loft with hyzer means the wind will get you. Learn how to putt traditionally and if you miss wide right try to understand what you are doing wrong instead of adopting a stance to solve the issue.

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Old 10-15-2019, 12:06 PM
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After messing around with left-foot-forward I would not recommend that a new disc golfer start with that stance. It forces a lot of loft on longer putts, and the loft with hyzer means the wind will get you. Learn how to putt traditionally and if you miss wide right try to understand what you are doing wrong instead of adopting a stance to solve the issue.
That's a really good point.
I didn't notice the reverse footing until I watched it several times. I was sort of underhand flinging it with hyzer right into the basket (a lot of times without it even hitting chains). It was so effortless and comfortable. And then after watching it a few more times, I saw the reverse stance, but it felt awkward, so I used a traditional stance.

I guess my point was more so that you have to just sort of find something to start with so that you can find out what doesn't work about it, and here I think we're on the same page. I wasn't trying to recommend that stance, it was more that his putts were just sort of tossed into the basket and when I tried the same with rattlers, it just felt natural to me. And after lots of experimentation with them, I started to recognize flaws with my style. I used to be convinced that the one disc that would never ever leave my bag was a rattler...

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Do you know how hard it is to hold that many Rattlers in one hand?

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In my very inexperienced opinion, what you putt is way less important than how you putt.

And I agree the deep rim on putters is difficult to get used to. I like the grip on a driver much better, sorry no real help!.
This is more helpful than suggesting he go back to a deep rim putter, just because it's the same brand as the Shark.

The improvement might have been a psychological factor of switching discs, or his putting style might be better suited to overstable low profile putters or mids. OP, try a Ringer, Rhyno, Envy, etc.

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