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Old 06-13-2018, 04:49 PM
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Like others have said, touring and playing is their job. Like other individual sports, if you are good, you will make money. If you market yourself well, you will make money.

However, not all jobs are for everyone. If you aren't good at either of those, then you're working a dead-end-job... and need to find a new career.

Also, I'd like to see the correlation that is being drawn to conclude talent is outgrowing the money. Can't quite wrap my head around this, as both talent and money opportunity has grown through time.

As long as we got youtubes (especially Jomez and CCDG) that I can watch, courses I can play, and local leagues/tournaments I can 'donate' my money to, I am a happy camper.
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Old 06-13-2018, 04:57 PM
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Also, I'd like to see the correlation that is being drawn to conclude talent is outgrowing the money. Can't quite wrap my head around this, as both talent and money opportunity has grown through time.
The way I understood the OP's question, he was strictly talking about tournament purses, using the example of last weekend's BSF where some fairly prominent touring players failed to make the pay cut. The implication being that if such good players are failing to cash at a big event, is there more "talent" than available money. Seems like a myopic way to look at it, especially using just the one event and overlooking the alternative means these players have to earn money.

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Old 06-13-2018, 05:12 PM
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Old 06-13-2018, 05:13 PM
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Not all events have this size a field either. GBO had more than double the players in MPO than Masters Cup and BSF. Also, not every event has this size field with so many of the top players. BSF and Masters Cup were both stacked with 1000+ rated players. 50ish at BSF, so not a lot of "donators" in that event. Most of the guys have to bring their A game to cash in a field like that.

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Old 06-13-2018, 05:24 PM
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There are endless jobs to choose from.
They chose disc golf.
Not my problem.
That's kind of how I feel. I'd love to scratch out a living on the road, not worrying about a mortgage or 9-5 desk job, playing the sport I love and seeing the country.

I don't particularly care if there's ever any money in the pro tour for disc golf - this is, and always will be, an amateur 'bottom up' driven sport.
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Old 06-13-2018, 05:48 PM
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Maybe he shouldn't have tripled a hole in the final round...
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Old 06-13-2018, 06:55 PM
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Paul has stated that there are several players making six figures a year. And when you mentioned how much Sexton and Jerm make from commentary, it sorta blew my mind. As for Eagle, he probably spends more money a month just on food than I make total. They're doing just fine.
Nate and Jerm don't make much from commentary directly. Their money comes from tour series discs and Sexton shootouts. Those sell much better because they do commentary.

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Old 06-13-2018, 08:25 PM
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To get a sense of scale

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Sure. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it. Just acknowledging that the pool of very skilled players may be outpacing the money---or, at least, outpacing the tournament payout money.
Key distinction for sure. In that case, 100% agreed that tournament purse growth is being outpaced by talent level at NT/Major events.

I'll take the same stance as you, not passing judgment, but agree with that observation.

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Old 06-13-2018, 08:29 PM
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Nate and Jerm don't make much from commentary directly. Their money comes from tour series discs and Sexton shootouts. Those sell much better because they do commentary.
Gotcha. I was remembering this quote wrong:

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Bitter - it annoys me when pros ask for money to do commentary. They already make FAR more money than any of the media people do, plus just doing it raises their profile exponentially and sells their sig/tour discs. Some of these people are getting 5-figure royalty checks monthly, yet they feel like they need to take my job and get paid for it (on top of getting paid for doing theirs)
Either way, not too shabby.

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Old 06-13-2018, 08:38 PM
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I don't know. At the risk of sounding selfish....I don't really care. If I were in support of any large "grow the sport" concept, the touring pros would not be on my radar. I don't believe there is any scenario where TV or internet interest is large enough to make much of an impact on "grow the sport". I think the concept should be focused on bringing in new players on a local level, both tournament and casual play. I am not even sure I want that, just means more crowds on courses and more work for the old farts around here responsible for tournaments and putting new baskets in the ground. Trying to make a living, playing disc golf is a decision. It does not seem so significantly more difficult than making a living at a lot of other, less fun occupations. *grumblegrumblegripegripe*
I was hoping to see the common sense of this quote early on in the thread and I did. This on so many levels.
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