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Old 08-07-2019, 12:44 PM
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Thankfully I'm happy with my current bag, so I don't really *need* either a Lucid or Bio Raider. I'm happy with the Shryke for less stable max distance, and with my PDX for serious headwinds. I'm always open to trying a new plastic for a mold I like though, and I'd like to minimize molds a bit when possible. So I'll definitely grab both a Lucid and Bio Raider when they're easy to grab, but I'm not fretting it. If they sell out quick I'll just wait for the next run.

And it's never too early to speculate on the 2020 Team Series Lucid-X discs. I've got to think Raider will be one of them, only question is whose name is on the disc. I wonder if Lucid-X Raider would get into PDX level stability, but faster? Could maybe bag all Raiders for distance next year. Time will tell.
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Old 08-07-2019, 02:15 PM
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And it's never too early to speculate on the 2020 Team Series Lucid-X discs. I've got to think Raider will be one of them, only question is whose name is on the disc.
I need Lucid-X Raiders to happen. Out of the pros that would get a Lucid-X disc, I wouldn't be surprised if a Lucid-X Raider ended up having Oakley's name on it. Idk if they'd give him both the Raider and the Felon; maybe make the Lucid Felon his signature disc like PP has the Bio Defender. It seems like he's the biggest proponent of the Raider while most others that you'd think would throw it are still opting for beat up Enforcers or Ballista Pros.

Although, they may do something very similar to what they're doing with Lucid/Bio Raiders and just make Lucid-X super limited without anyone's name on them. The fact that we haven't had a stock run of Lucid tells me they're planning on keeping the hype train moving as long as possible with various limited released and/or special plastics/stamps/etc.

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Old 08-20-2019, 12:29 PM
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I'm a fan of all disc manufacturers and will never decline to test something out - so last night a buddy had a Fuzion Raider - I threw my drive with a new Axiom Delirium - then he said, wanna try this? It would probably fly about the same. I gave it a throw. and yeah, flew great, felt nice, got good distance, not too flippy by any means but not too OS, overall I liked it, so I like to investigate and see what its all about. As for the Delirium, it is probably more OS than the Raider and a wider rim for sure. Flight and distance wise they ended up very close, but this was based on 1 throw of each haha so, not a big sample size. My only gripe with trilogy drivers is sometimes things get randomly flippy, I felt I couldn't trust the discs between plastics and after they work in just a little they seem to be very sensitive. Just curious what plastics the Raider is in (how long has it been out? its still new right?) and whats the most comfortable - I did notice flashing on the disc and I don't love that - curious if stabilities range on run to run or if they are all that mild.slight turn and the 3 fade?
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Old 08-20-2019, 12:33 PM
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curious if stabilities range on run to run or if they are all that mild.slight turn and the 3 fade?
I don't think there's been more than maybe a run of each plastic right now. Fuzion might the exception since they've had several different special stamped released, but I'm sure the SE, Hybrid, and Lucids have all only had a single run each. With that being said, you'll find more variance going plastic to plastic versus trying to identify which run the discs came from. SE will show the most turn, then your experience sounds like the typical Fuzion, Hybrid and Lucid are both more stable and likely won't show any turn unless you force them over a little. And even then they fight back about half way through their flight and give you the 3 fade.

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Old 09-09-2019, 12:10 PM
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Production run Lucid Raiders are out. Anybody grab one? My Fuzion Raider is showing its first signs of breaking in, so I was probably going to be in the market for another Raider before the end of the year anyway. Looks like I'll grab a Lucid for just a little bit of extra teeth.

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Old 09-09-2019, 01:16 PM
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My Fuzion Raider is showing its first signs of breaking in, so I was probably going to be in the market for another Raider before the end of the year anyway.
Do you sell your broken in drivers like this? I HATE breaking in stable/overstable plastic. I play in so little wind that it becomes a catch 22. The disc won't fly right until it breaks in, and I never have a reason to throw it to break it in.
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Old 09-09-2019, 02:44 PM
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Do you sell your broken in drivers like this? I HATE breaking in stable/overstable plastic. I play in so little wind that it becomes a catch 22. The disc won't fly right until it breaks in, and I never have a reason to throw it to break it in.
Ha, no I don't sell them...I cherish them. Also, I've come to terms with the fact that I can never be a true mold minimalist, for precisely the reason you stated. I just don't throw my true meathook discs (Zone, Felon, & PDX) enough to cycle them. I'll sometimes carry two Zones, but that's because I cheated and one of them is in baseline plastic. So instead I start my "cycles" with stable-to-overstable discs rather than super OS discs. That means Emac Truths, Getaways, CD3's, and (hopefully now) Raiders. I also carry a less stable mold to complement each of those, but eventually I expect my seasoned discs to take over those understable slots.

Side note: Trilogy Biofuzion/Recycled plastic is a GREAT cycle starter, since it beats in quick but feels identical to Fuzion/Gold/TP.

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Old 09-09-2019, 03:37 PM
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Side note: Trilogy Biofuzion/Recycled plastic is a GREAT cycle starter, since it beats in quick but feels identical to Fuzion/Gold/TP.
Totally agree.
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Old 09-09-2019, 03:56 PM
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I’m interested in the Bio drop, whenever that happens. Could probably do Lucid/Bio and be good on DDs!
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Welp. I had my first "flip in a headwind and don't come back" moment with my Raider yesterday. Unfortunately, it happened on a hole with an OB creek on the right. Took me a good 20 minutes to find it. What's really frustrating is it was a great throw distance wise on an uphill Par 4. Would've had an easy up-and-down for birdie if it had stayed in.

In related news, I will definitely be going to the local shop to pick up a Lucid this weekend.
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